The militarization of schools

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Norsefire, Aug 22, 2008.

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What is your view on the militarization of schools?

  1. I believe we should militarize schools

    6.3%
  2. I believe we should increase discipline in schools, but not militarize them

    37.5%
  3. I believe we should keep the current discipline and operation of schools

    18.8%
  4. I believe we should lessen the disciplinary aspect of schools

    37.5%
  1. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    I think he views nationalism as a kind of calisthenics for the soul. He does not think of it in a political way. It's like if you do sit ups and push ups and march you will learn to stand up straight. If you are nationalistic and patriotic your soul has good posture.

    I'm not joking.

    I think he sees the ideal man - not unlike certain sculptures with neo-classical figures so popular in the Third Reich - and that is as far as the implications of his beliefs go.
     
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  3. Enmos Staff Member

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    Yes.. I believe it is some form of fascism, perhaps a weak form.. I have a hard time believing he actually means it the way it comes out of his mouth.
     
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  5. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Well, it is fascinating to actually encounter someone who has these beliefs. Obviously they have a strong hold over many people in the world. I never seem to encounter them in person however. I can't say I am upset about this, however.
     
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  7. Enmos Staff Member

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    Perhaps he only speaks freely about this sort of stuff here.. and not in real life because he knows it will not be received all that well.
     
  8. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    I dont think Norsefire identifies with the Nazis. He regards the Jews as his semitic brothers.
     
  9. Enmos Staff Member

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    It was never my intention to imply that, I just meant that his ideas are fascist-like.
     
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  10. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Oh look....the democracy lover......democracy is WEAK....get over it

    We don't need silly beauracracy holding us back; we need EFFICIENCY.
    And what's wrong with that? Patriotism is a thing every man should have.

    What's wrong with fascism?

    You mean, encounter a right winger?

    I don't identify with Nazis at all, but I do have a huge respect and admiration of Hitler. I don't approve or support his ideals, but I do think he was a strong man

    And?

    Not everyone is a lib'ral!


    Military schools would teach community, discipline, honor, and love of country; there are no cons.
     
  11. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    There is a major difference between a right winger or the category and a fascist. A right winger would generally have similar ideals, but have a much great attraction to freedom. Right wingers can be complicated individuals. A fascist really cannot. Fascists want to live out via law and violence the end of pluralistic societies. Right wingers can merely hope to convince people via voting, statement of opinions, etc. There is so much that fascists loathe, I would have to pretend I was another, rather shallow person, not to have a constant battle on my hands. Right wingers I can get along with fine.
     
  12. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I simply believe in efficiency; if you want progress, you need efficiency. Beauracracy is unnecessary and ultimately, it detracts from efficiency. What we need is rugged determination and unity of willpower; and then, anything is possible!
     
  13. Enmos Staff Member

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    That in itself was just an observation.
    However, you know I don't agree with you on said subjects.
     
  14. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I don't understand why.
     
  15. Enmos Staff Member

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    And I don't understand why you hold your views either.
    Hey.. ! The universe is still here..

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  16. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Humans are not machines. I put a lower priority on efficiency than you do.
     
  17. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    No, I don't understand why you disagree with me.
    It is precisely becomes Humans are Human that I put a high priority on efficiency; help those who need help, eradicate those who need to be removed, and progress.
     
  18. Enmos Staff Member

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    It's fine Norse.
     
  19. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Why do you disagree with me?

    The Dutch government has lied and spit on you; it's time for you to take your country back, kick out those who don't belong there, and lead it to victory!
     
  20. Enmos Staff Member

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    Should the US kick you out ?
     
  21. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I would understand if they did
     
  22. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I understood. I do not prioritize efficiency so high. I think it is inhuman. I do not want to fit into the cookie cutter outline of a human that fascists admire.
     
  23. Enmos Staff Member

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    Well, that's something different.. you say they should kick you out.
    And if you think that, why don't you leave out of free will ?
     

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