Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by Success_Machine, Jul 26, 2002.

1. ### Success_MachineImpossible? I can do that

Corbin Motors of California presents...

The Merlin Roadster has a real Harley Davidson engine under the hood (or protruding from the hood rather). This one-seat commuter car could be improved any number of ways, but is so cool I'd buy one right now...

Improvements I'd make include:

- convertible for all-weather driving
- flexible fuel diesel/biodiesel engine version
- flexible fuel gasoline/ethanol version
- direct liquid ethanol fuel cell version (Medis Technologies)
- homebrew ethanol still kits
- cargo trailer, or two-seat inline version

(um, yes, I do believe ah have found mah ideal automobile, yes)

You couldn't drive ti in the U.S. though.

3. ### Success_MachineImpossible? I can do that

Apparently one of Corbin Motors vehicles will be featured in the new Austin Powers movie. Looks like they have a number of products in the pipeline...

The Merlin Coupe is designed for the commuter and will get 70-90 mpg fuel economy, and drive 300-400 miles on a single tank of gas.

"87% of commuters in the US travel 18 miles or less to work daily… 93% of those do so alone."

"That's what we say when people ask, "Are you going to build a two-seater next?" We just don't believe the world needs another seven passenger Sport Utility Vehicle on the freeway to take ONE person to work. Sure, maybe your big SUV can pull tree stumps, but let's see you cruise it to work for about a penny a mile and park it in a motorcycle parking spot. Leave the Sport Utility in the driveway for the weekend family outings and drive something efficient to work. Heck, with the money you save on gas take them to the mall!"

SUVs have become an unachievable status symbol, and most guys my age just can't afford one. They keep catering to people who are willing to spend 25% of their income to buy one "on time" with substantial monthly payments. I just don't want to live like that. This car looks good, and it also seems to be affordable. The big automakers don't think there's a market for something like this? Think again.

Who else sells a comfortable, one-seat, commuter car, that gets 70 - 90 mpg, that is licensed for use on the roads, and LOOKS LIKE THAT !!!!!

NOOOOOOO-BODY !!!

The Merlin Roadster is so interesting that I have added a link to my Starship Generations website, under the renewable energy transportation section at the bottom of the page... it is truely an extension of the bare-bones concepts I had presented earlier!

4. ### BatMMember At Large

Why would you say that? I haven't yet seen a Merlin Roadster around (but I suspect they're out there), but I have seen the Sparrow on streets around California.

5. ### TristanLeave your World Behind

I was looking at the orange one 2 days ago and talking with a guy who was in the business.

Its an interesting car.

(P.S im at oshkosh WI) (if you dont know, its the biggest airshow in the world. Todays the last day)

6. ### CongratsBartok Fiend

I live within walking distance of the second-largest balloon show in the world, the 'New Jersey Festival of Ballooning.' It's over now, but there were about 200 balloons.

Wow, now that 've driven this thread way off topic....

7. ### UnregisteredThe Original Conservative

Yes I live there too. Wowzers. Do we live in the same area?

Anyway.....

I saw the Corbin Sparrow once at a New York City car show. A definite great car I believe, very stylish and new age, but overpriced. How much can you charge for a one seat small displacement vehicle? $15,000?$10,000?

14. ### CrisIn search of Immortality

I can argue that a gas guzzling SUV is more environmentally friendly than a bicyclist covering the same distances.

The energy for each comes from quite different sources.

The energy for SUV comes from oil that has been extracted from the earth through a relatively very small hole in the ground.

The energy for the cyclist has come from vegetable and meat products that have consumed acres of the earth’s surface. Fields used for crops do little if anything to assist in environmental conditions but instead displace the more useful wilderness and forest areas that sustain our atmosphere. Acres of land used for grazing cattle also displace the wilderness but with the added disaster of such animals creating large quantities of environmentally dangerous methane.

The primary reason to use machines that use less fuel is so that the limited resource of oil will last much longer. Meanwhile agriculture and the food industry are destroying our atmosphere.

So spend more time driving SUVs and eat less and save the planet in the process.

Cris

15. ### BatMMember At Large

Probably true if the distances are big, but not if the distances are small. You can argue that, once the SUV gets up to speed, it uses less energy than the bicyclist. However, the bicyclist is quicker off the line with less of an energy requirement.

Of course, if you want to argue this, my argument would be that the various forms of public transportation (buses, light rail, trains, planes, etc.) are more environmentally friendly than SUVs covering the same distances.

16. ### BatMMember At Large

Re: Too costly

Cost/benefit ratio, silly.

• If the $19K Merlin gets 8-10 times the gas mileage of your SUV, how much is it saving you in gas per year? In my case, I probably spend$25/wk for gas. Therefore, it would probably save me ~$1K/year in the cost of gas alone (throw in a few big trips and YMMV). • Also, the Merlin is (most likely) HOV compatible, so you can take the diamond lanes to work and probably trim a lot of time off your commute. In my case, it might cut my trip time in half (from 45 minutes to 20 minutes). • Also, the Harley engine is much simpler than the SUV engine, so the need to go to the shop will be reduced and (potentially) much less expensive (even on oil changes). • Also, being a small, simple car, the insurance is likely to be cheaper because it is less costly to repair after an accident and less likely to do damage to others. • Finally, you don't have to get another$40K SUV for the wife and kids to use while you're using the first SUV at work.
• Oh, and, if you're reasonably close to work, the Sparrow might be a better and even cheaper option.

This looks even better if the production of the vehicle goes up and the cost comes down.

17. ### CrisIn search of Immortality

Batm,

Perhaps, but my point wasn't really about comparing energy consumption but the sources of the energy.

A few tiny holes in the ground to extract oil can in no way compare to vast areas of the worlds surface used to sustain cyclists, assuming all SUV and car drivers switched over to being cyclists.

My point is that agriculture and meat production has a very detrimental effect on the atmospshere by removing wilderness whereas a few drill holes have no such impact.

Cris

18. ### overdozehuman

Of course, driving instead of biking or walking has a very detrimental effect on people's health and well-being. Granted, they can compensate by exercising, but then -- whoops! -- there goes the savings on food.

19. ### Success_MachineImpossible? I can do that

Environmental effects of cars

Our supply lines are dependent on the performance expectations of motor vehicles. We know that a certain truck can go a certain speed, travel a certain distance, carry a certain amount of cargo, and the cost of doing so is quite predictable.

It is so predictable that we have been able to optimize our food supplies to support a larger population than would otherwise be possible. Without those supply lines, which depend on fossil-fuel automobiles, people would starve by the millions. In fact without oil, we wouldn't have sufficient quantities of fertilizers and pesticides, which are made from petroleum products, to boost crop yields to feed people. Again people would starve.

This could be seen as either a detrimental or beneficial effect of motor vehicles. But one has to keep in mind that oil is a finite resource, and we are burning it in car engines by the billions of barrels annually.

20. ### BatMMember At Large

Mostly agree with you, but there is the Exxon Valdez to consider. Agriculture certainly changes the landscape, but plant and animal population can adjust. A spill from an oil pipe, however...