The irrelevance of God

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Magical Realist, Oct 8, 2013.

  1. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Not all theists are interested in "converting" others to their way of thinking. That said, I'm not interested in changing theists' minds to my way of thinking. I was once a religious person and it has been a long and winding road that I've traveled, to get to where I feel content as to my beliefs. As content as I can be, for the time being.

    People have to find their own way as it relates to spirituality, etc...

    Don't get me wrong, I understand the premise of your thread. But, I'd hate to see atheism/agnosticism morph into a "religion" unto itself ...the very thing it's speaking against.

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    That is more of my point.
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Who cares? What does that have to do with anything? You're just grasping at thin air.
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with Wegs for the most part. I don't try to convince others that blue is a prettier color than pink even though I think it is.

    Why not wait to bring out the arguments against religion until either someone is pushing their religion on the public or until the subject is one where religion is intruding into the subject (science)?
     
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  7. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Who says the ape hasn't evolved as well as man? We have a common ancestor and we have both branched off from that ancestor.

    How can one have an opinion of evolution without understanding evolution in the first place?
     
  8. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Yeah, I have to agree. What's the point of this thread if not to incite anger?

    You'll find this is true of just about all anti-evolutionists here.
     
  9. arauca Banned Banned

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    Biologically we are the same , our appearance are different , the Ape branched of from the common ancestor earlier yet it have not made much progress

    כז וַיִּבְרָא אֱלֹהִים אֶת-הָאָדָם בְּצַלְמוֹ, בְּצֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים בָּרָא אֹתוֹ: זָכָר וּנְקֵבָה, בָּרָא אֹתָם. 27
    And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.
    כח וַיְבָרֶךְ אֹתָם, אֱלֹהִים, וַיֹּאמֶר לָהֶם אֱלֹהִים פְּרוּ וּרְבוּ וּמִלְאוּ אֶת-הָאָרֶץ, וְכִבְשֻׁהָ; וּרְדוּ בִּדְגַת הַיָּם, וּבְעוֹף הַשָּׁמַיִם, וּבְכָל-חַיָּה, הָרֹמֶשֶׂת עַל-הָאָרֶץ. 28
    And God blessed them; and God said unto them: 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that creepeth upon the earth
     
  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Why wait at all? The op is a simple observation of a cultural fact. Will it offend those who believe in God? Probably. But since when has free discussion required topic censorship to avoid hurting people's feelings? Unless we are invoking some implicit "right to be deluded" I say discuss, confront, and debate. Life is too short to beat around the bush.
     
  11. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not suggesting you have no "right" to start this thread. It's just not an original topic (at all) and it's not in relation to any other topic. You can start a topic called "Vegetarians are stupid" but what's the point?
     
  12. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    So what? Is there some point to that?

    כז וַיִּבְרָא אֱלֹהִים אֶת-הָאָדָם בְּצַלְמוֹ, בְּצֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים בָּרָא אֹתוֹ: זָכָר וּנְקֵבָה, בָּרָא אֹתָם.
    Those are just myths and superstitions, irrelevant to reality.
     
  13. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    First you call the op novel, then you attack it for not being original. So which is it? And I haven't attacked any believers. I have simply observed the cultural trend over the past few centuries of God becoming irrelevant to our everyday lives. Why is that construed as some personal insult, particularly in a forum dedicated to science?
     
  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    The "novel" part was sarcasm. You wanted discussion. I'm discussing

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  15. arauca Banned Banned

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    What ever you want to call this , but it was written several thousand years ago, so this did not start just 100 years but many thousands . It may have something.
     
  16. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, that was written in a time when men were incredibly ignorant about the world around them, while they wallowed in myths and superstitions. As we can see, not much has changed for some folks who believe there "may be something" to it.
     
  17. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    You're bitching about me posting this thread. Not discussing the op (at all)..
     
  18. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    There is nothing to discuss. You are right.
     
  19. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Don't let the door hit you in the ass...
     
  20. arauca Banned Banned

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    Would you say human dominate the earth ? and all animals ? and we went to the moon . God have give his spirit to man but not to the ape, so we evolved , but the ape did not .
     
  21. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I think what you're trying to say is why start a thread about the irrelevance of God if he is ...well, irrelevant.

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    In fairness though, Magical is simply sharing an atheist's viewpoint, no different than the various threads that others create here, discussing the relevance of God. Ya know?

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  22. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, but that is just nonsensical gibberish.
     
  23. arauca Banned Banned

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    you just don't have an answer , so that is you answer
     

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