because your post makes no sense that is why: You posted snip#913: As a refutation to a claim that there is no need to defy the laws of physics...to be valid. Which is an superb example of your absurd comprehension abilities. And I have repeatedly pointed this out but you have failed to address your obvious mistake. Again show me where "defying the laws of physics" is a necessary requirement for my refutation to stand as valid. The product of the imagination is NOT determined by the laws of physics.  The imagination does not need to defy the laws of physics but renders them irrelevant as per choice.  The criteria that for freewill to be real it must defy the laws of physics has *therefore* been refuted.  There is no need for me to bring in other more complex arguments than the above...  Choices and decisions etc are made with the use of the imagination. A total fiction until "published" into action.  Thus freewill is actual and real and in no way an illusion. [ as defined in this thread ] There is ample evidence that the product of the imagination is not dependent on the laws of physics and is quite good at making use of them at the whim of the imagine r. Example of the obvious: [video=youtube;KSRF3slguhI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSRF3slguhI[/video] Any ways I think another thread needs to be started and then you can continue your agenda to stay off topic and attack me for you own shortcomings here for as long as you like and for as long as the mods allow you to.