In chatting with another member here through pm, he thought 'sexism' might be a good topic to explore together, as a group here. I agreed. We tossed a few thoughts around, and I suggested that we take it from an approach that becomes more participatory, than lecturing. Going with that, perhaps we can explore when and why sexism began? Can we rid our world of this toxic attitude and behavior? Have you yourself, ever displayed sexist tendencies? (it's ok, we won't be mad if you say ''yes'') Interestingly, this member's pm came at an ironic time for me, as I read a thread that Gorlitz (another member here) started, titled 'The Eternalist.' That particular thread is about exploring Aristotle and his philosophy on 'eternalism.' As I was reading about Aristotle, I sadly came to the realization he would be considered today, to be a sexist. (and a bigot, as he also thought slavery was 'necessary,' but we won't go there for the sake of this discussion) When I posted my angst about learning of that, I was told that 'well, that was the timeframe.' Really? A timeframe or era is now a defense for bad behavior? For treating your fellow man like he/she is beneath you? I understand that the sentiment wasn't a malicious one in the thread, certainly, but it got me to thinking. Here was a brilliant mind, a man who brought much to mankind in terms of his 'thinking outside of the box' philosophies. Yet, Aristotle was rather a simpleton when it came to women. Here is a reference, for your review... http://muse.jhu.edu/login?auth=0&ty..._the_history_of_philosophy/v021/21.4smith.pdf Note the different between Plato and Aristotle. Plato (at least) thought women of higher economic status, should be 'equal to men' in political/social roles. While Aristotle, not too long thereafter, thought women should be subserving men. What a bummer to read that, Aristotle, sir! :/ Note also that this is a mere summary of what I'm speaking of in terms of sexism in relation to Aristotle. (I'm not 'picking on' Aristotle, but I think he serves as an intriguing example of how a man can be both brilliant in one perspective, and rather ignorant in another.) The thread is not to be about Aristotle either, so please feel free to post particular figures in history, who seemed sexist, yet historically, they are regarded in high esteem. So, here are the questions that I think might make for a productive discussion. 1) When did sexism start? 2) How and why did it start? 3) Does sexism exist today? In what ways? 4) How can we rid the world of such deplorable behavior? 5) Finally, has feminism helped or hindered the overall view of women's roles in society? **and a question that does deserve attention in our day and age: Do you think sexism exists today, against men? How? Please post up references to your claims, as the intent is to become less about opinion, and more based on history/fact. But, opinions are of course, welcome and necessary! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! *DISCLAIMER: Please refrain from bringing religion/God into the mix. That will just derail the thread--thank you in advance. EDIT TO ADD...That's a typo in the title! Drats! It should read...'when' not 'where' did it begin.