The future.

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Counter, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. Counter Registered Senior Member

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    Welcome. As I have previously posted, the argument between free-will and determinism is futile. If someone States something WILL, then that is determined. It cannot be changed. It simply will. As such any decision made NOW, will come into being. I believe the future is happening at present.

    However to state something will, relies on a knowledge of the future, which can only be stated by someone from the future...

    We are reliant on the future to determine what will.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    If someone states "something will" then, simply put, they are overreaching. Any prediction has an implicit "I predict that..." in front of it.

    This is not really philosophy.
     
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  5. Michael 345 30th March coming up - Well behaved Friday Valued Senior Member

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    If only I knew this nugget of wisdom I would have been set up long ago

    I just pronounced I will have a million dollars in my bank account tomorrow

    If I run out after a week I will will it again

    The only happening NOW is NOW

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  7. Counter Registered Senior Member

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    If there is only "now", why when a terminator tried to kill me BEFORE I developed time-travel, did it fail? It is because I would have developed it in the future. ☺
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I know you're just trolling for fun, but let's try our best to understand the line between reality and fantasy shall we, hmm?
     
  9. Counter Registered Senior Member

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    Fantasy? What do you know about it?
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You're pretending to confuse a movie with reality. Gee, the internets are perplexed.
     
  11. river

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    The Future , Our Future , depends on our understanding of our selves . Our potential . Our creativity , and our understanding of anything .

    The ability to find out what the brain/mind can do . And how the manipulation by media upon us can lead us to a Future we should not want .
     
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  12. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    My understanding is that the 5th dimension holds all possible outcomes, that the timeline is a winding snake, that any choice is probable. I once thought free will a real thing, but it seems more like a menu of options from which you can choose. Yet even then the choice you make is only one of many that exist.

    Perhaps if reincarnation is a real thing, we live the same life over and over, having many opportunities to explore alternative timelines, making new choices along the way.
     
  13. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Though sometimes the future feels like a Chinese pinball machine.
     
  14. Lookingfor... Registered Member

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    I believe there is more than simply now. The future is happening presently...
     
  15. Michael 345 30th March coming up - Well behaved Friday Valued Senior Member

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    If the future is happening presently can I ask How much of it?

    And while the future is happening presently Where is now hiding out?

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  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    How much present is there right now?
    If you cannot answer, does that mean that - like the future - the present doesn't exist?
     
  17. Michael 345 30th March coming up - Well behaved Friday Valued Senior Member

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    Present- as in NOW - is in existence

    It is in continuous existence, as opposed to discrete existence

    You will never exist in the future, because the future does not exist

    As of the current moment we call NOW you do not exist in the past

    You DID but as they say - that WAS in the past. It is not so in the current past

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  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So I can hold it in my hand?
    How much does it weigh?

    These are your arguments for something existing.
     
  19. Michael 345 30th March coming up - Well behaved Friday Valued Senior Member

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    Slip of the fingers. Oops got me. Should be HAPPENING

    Thanks for giving me the chance to correct

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  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Doesn't change anything.

    All the arguments you've made to cast doubt on the existence of the future can also be used to cast doubt on the existence of the present.
     
  21. Michael 345 30th March coming up - Well behaved Friday Valued Senior Member

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    NOW is always present and occuring

    People, things and the Universe do EXIST in the NOW but ONLY in the NOW

    No existence in the past, which is NOT occuring
    No existence in n the future, which is NOT occuring

    The PRESENT, as in NOW, is a HAPPENING (<<-- as in a PROCESS)

    It is a continuous HAPPENING
    As opposed to discrete HAPPENING

    The people, things, universe present during the happening DO EXIST and can be put on the table and sliced and diced

    The HAPPENING cannot

    Seperate the ingredients from the process

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