The first experimental measurement of God; to a 2-decimal point accuracy

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  1. river

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    Disagree

    Fractals are physical objects movement , geometry of fractals . Is based on movement . In a constant ordered way .
     
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    What are Fractals?
    https://fractalfoundation.org/resources/what-are-fractals/
     
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  5. George E Hammond Registered Senior Member

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    [W4u post #373]
    I introduced microtubules to this forum.
    So far there has been only instant rejection of my intuitive recognition that microtubules play an important part in the emergent phenomenon of consciousness.

    [GH MS physics]

    From the physics standpoint there is no doubt that uT (microtubule) function is the key element in human consciousness. Congratulations on your strong effort.

    [W4u post #373]

    Now you are at the other extreme and propose that microtubules are not just instrumental in consciousness, but are involved in a conscious afterlife no less.

    [GH MS physics]

    Life after Death (LAD) is made possible by a fantastic "computer time dilation" caused by the enormous "frequency ratio" between neuronal vs microtubule bit/rates, of 10-trillion to 1. You don't seem to appreciate this fact.

    [W4u post #373]

    I still believe that even as an individual has a fleeting memory of engrams at the moment of dying, that does not constitute an afterlife

    [GH MS physics]

    We're not talking "fleeting engrams", we're talking about an entire lifetime compressed into a split second !! There is nothing known to ordinary life experience that even mimics that !

    [W4u post #373]

    AFAIK, thoughts require a medium that processes them. Death does not offer that medium.

    [GH MS physics]
    WRONG. The "medium" of the afterlife is identical to the medium of life before death, namely, the human body.

    ... What you fail to realize is that the human brain is a "2 speed computer". It can run at "neuronal speed" which is 100 Hz, or it can run at "microtubule speed" which is a million gigahz – which is a 10-trillion times speed up!
    ... The neuronal system is the "conscious mind", while the microtubule system is the "unconscious mind". Life is experienced by the conscious mind, while life after death is experienced by the unconscious mind.
    ... And in that sense, you can properly say that the MEDIUM of "life after death" is the microtubule system. But the "microtubule system itself" is actually part of the human body, therefore the medium of LAD is the same as the medium of life before death, namely, the human body! I don't see the problem?

    George
     
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  7. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Should have gone to Specsavers

    Series of Australian optometrist ads for glasses

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    Some how I don't think glasses would solve the issue

    Producing evidence for the claims made in the post definitely would

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  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Go ahead
    I have noticed you are a kidding free zone

    I diagnose your microtubules need tuneing

    Try https://we_clean_microtubules.com.ru

    They have a special going at the moment for people called George

    I'd get mine done but and heading, I hope, back to Bali where girlfriend is happy to clean my microtubules

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  9. George E Hammond Registered Senior Member

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    [George E Hammond MS physics]
    ... Okay, in my previous post quoted above, I mentioned that the human brain is a
    "2-speed computer". It runs simultaneously at the neuronal firing level at 100 Hz and at the microtubule (ultraviolet light) level at 1-million GHz.
    ... This means if you played the "afterlife dream" at the neuronal level it would take say, several years. But if you play the same dream at the microtubule level it only takes a few microseconds! This is an enormous "computer time dilation" which you seem to be oblivious of? But it is the sine qua non of the miraculous phenomena of LAD (Life after Death).
    ... Time dilations are commonplace in modern physics. The most famous one is Einstein's "Twins Paradox". LAD is produced by a "computer time dilation" in which the bedside observer sees a person die in a few seconds, but the dying person in that few seconds subjectively experiences life for several years in a cyber paradise called "Heaven". There is what Einstein called a "loss of simultaneity" of objective versus subjective time.
    ... So far, you seem to be oblivious to this fundamental time dilation phenomena associated with the theory of life after death! Yet, it is the core reason for this miracle!
    George
     
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, but if the body already contains all the experiences of a lifetime, why does it need to "download" anything?
    Either way it is the microtubules that process and transport the information. I really don't see how that process can vary.
    AFAIK, the unconscious mind is used for homeostatic control, not for conscious experiences, unless homeostasis goes wrong.
    And I assume here is where Roger Penrose enters the stage. If anybody knows Penrose knows. But other than that normal sensory data is transported, perhaps by some quantum function, I have never heard him discuss this duality.

    As I understand it, microtubules (cytoskeleton) do all the work at all times and there is no separation of MT function aside that in order to experience any form of reality it requires the microtubules in the brain to form an "experience". I just don't see how this process can be faster at death than when dynamically alive .

    I am in Anil Seth corner: "when the brain dies there is nothing to be afraid of, nothing at all"
    And if there would be such a thing as "downloading" it would result in an "uncontrolled hallucination" rather than a "controlled hallucination"
    And that is about the limit of my understanding
    AFAIK, time dilation is connected with motion. This is why I am having a difficult time visualizing what you are proposing. Moreover, IMO time itself is an emergent phenomenon as a result of duration. Of this I am fairly confident as the experts in the previous video seem to agree on.

    Please understand, while I am skeptical, I admit that my knowledge of spacetime is limited and I am loath to offer a definitive opinion.
     
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  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Demonstrated by whom and name of the dead person who came back?

    Thank you

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  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently you do not understand that George is NOT talking about resurrection.
    He is talking about a self-aware experiential afterlife. Let's keep the facts straight, shall we?
     
  13. George E Hammond Registered Senior Member

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    [Write4U, post #427 said:]
    "Yes, but if the body already contains all the experiences of a lifetime, why does it need to "download" anything?"

    [G. E. Hammond MS physics]
    Your statement is well known as the "rerun misconception" of life after death (LAD).
    ... What you fail to realize, is that we obtain a "new body" in the Afterlife! To wit: The Afterlife proceeds with a "100% fully grown body".
    ... It is well known that the world population on average is about 15% growth stunted; obviously caused historically by the world standard of living. The "Afterlife body" OTOH is fully 100% grown. – And a map of this fully grown body is contained in the microtubule system, unknown to the neuronal system.
    ... This is enabled by the fact that the microtubule system (unconscious mind) is aware of the existence of this fully grown body, while the neuronal system (conscious mind) is not Thus it death when consciousness sinks from the neuronal system to the microtubule system, it takes on (downloads) this new fully grown body!
    ... Incidentally, while you are not aware of this, the world has been aware of it for thousands of years – which is why Shakespeare said "life is but a walking shadow", or the Vatican says "Angels have wings" and on and on! Our earthly body, is but a walking shadow, of the fully grown (angelic) body we obtain in heaven!
    George
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    This is getting more and more complicated. How is this body formed, physically or metaphysically?
    Can you prove that? If so, is there any formal paper on the falsification?
     
  15. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    What an absurd load of made up crap.
     
  16. George E Hammond Registered Senior Member

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    [George E Hammond MS physics]
    Look W4u, this is not rocket science. You know the difference between the term "genotype" and "phenotype", right?
    ... In the diagram below the human, genotype – phenotype, difference is shown:

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    ''' The theory is that the human body contains a "map of the genotype" in the microtubule system. And while alive here on earth we have to walk around in the "phenotypic" body, but when the life after death "ultraviolet flash" occurs in the microtubule system at the point of no return (PONR) we are resurrected in an "all 5 senses" hallucinatory world, and are endowed with a 100% fully grown (genotypic) body.
    ... The Vatican incidentally, refers to this as the "glorified body".

    George

    PS: I only claim 1 chance in 3 that this theory is correct, I do not claim that is a proven fact !
     
  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    What happens if you don't like your genotypic body in this life and were, as apparently you can do, were about to change it when you died?

    Also if babies are given a fully grown body is it imbued with all the experience it would have had, or general generic life experiences?

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  18. river

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    Disagree

    Fractals are physical objects movement , geometry of fractals . Is based on movement . In a constant ordered way .

    Fractals are found in Nature . Physically .
     
  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Can you send me a physical fractal? I'd love to have one. I'd take good care of it!
    How do they proliferate? Fractal sex?
     
  20. river

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    Where do you think the understanding of fractals began ?

    What is a fractal pattern in Nature , an example ? Snowflake .

    What is a fractal pattern in nature?
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    A fractal is a pattern that the laws of nature repeat at different scales. Examples are everywhere in the forest. Trees are natural fractals, patterns that repeat smaller and smaller copies of themselves to create the biodiversity of a forest.Nov 4, 2018 .
     
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  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, you are engaged in a category mistake.

    Gilbert Ryle
    Category mistake - Wikipedia
     
  22. river

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    Define Fractals then .
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    You defined it yourself in post # 437.
    You are just misinterpreting the definition.
    --A tree has a fractal pattern , but a fractal pattern is not a tree--
     
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