The Far Right and the Far Left Debate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ElectricFetus, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Well I don't agree with a word from Ann so perhaps that is why I give it all to Ana, while I felt some of ana's arguments fell fate I could not disagree. Ann is the perfect example of the rich American blaming migrants for the poor and middle classe's plight as a scapegoat and Ana did hammer that once or twice, but she should have keep hammering that. Ana while having her moments of being a disgusting human being she is not a demon like Ann Coulter.
     
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  3. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Well Shapiro is a conniving Jew and Cenk is a fat brown buffalo so I did not come into this being productive, it was a fun listen, but it was not that productive. Again very little I agreed with Shapiro with, beside jewdism, sure I'm for reduce buisness taxes and simplified tax code, as long as it comes with the extremely high PERSONAL tax rates on the rich (like the 1950's as Cenk points out). The fundamental divide here is between those that understand the free market is not a cure all for all problems and fucking ideologue zealots like shapiro that think it is.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    ElectricFetus:

    Please explain the relevance of Shapiro's Judaism or Jewish ethnicity to the point you're trying to make.

    And what does it mean to be a "fat brown buffalo"?

    Are you throwing racist insults at these men?

    Thanks.
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I was being flippant. If someone called me brown or a conniving jew, I would laugh, not be insulted.

    1) As a jew that has trolled alt righter for years I take particular giddy joy at jew jokes

    2) "Fat brown buffalo" is not racist, "brown" is not a race, I'm brown (Sephardic by the way), though fat and buffalo would not easily apply to me I would still laugh at being called such a thing.

    If you find these offensive I can remove them if you would be so kind as to reactive editing.
     
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  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Bear in mind that it's not obvious to readers where you're coming from, ElectricFetus. Nobody knows your personal background until you tell them.
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think it would matter, we are all adults, we should be able to handle words.
     
  10. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I don't handle "conniving Jew" very well.
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I think even you would be very careful where you used a slur like "kike" or "nigger" - even if you thought that some people might find it funny under the right circumstances, and even though adults should be able to handle words.
     
  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Well that sounds like a personal problem.

    Sure, I would use those words amongst people that I thought could handle it because they have the maturity and intellect to understand context and subtext.
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S038800011400151X
     
  13. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, you should fix it.
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    OK. So it DOES matter.
     
  15. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I should make myself annoyed/offended by the word "kike"?

    Yes, of course, one would not talk to children like that.

    Are either of you interested in the topic at hand?
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You mean whether Shapiro is a conniving Jew or Cenk is a fat brown buffalo? Doesn't seem to be much in that topic other than some hate - so I will leave you to it.
     
  17. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    No I mean do you think these debates were productive?
     
  18. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    I would recommend against it until you have the maturity and intellect to understand the context and subtext of how to use such dangerous words.

    Remember also that you have declared your intention to inflict harm. People observing your deliberate and vicious use of such language will take it in the established context. Maturity and intellect do not describe the state of mind in which people sit around and passively allow another's two-bit, willful ignorance to harm them.
     
  19. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Words are not dangerous, just words.

    What?

    I will leave this to James, if he says I should cut the vulgarity so be it.
     
  20. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.
     
  21. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Why? What good does getting annoyed/offended do? It seems like getting annoyed/offended has lead to full republican domination of my government with a pig boar elected as president. Getting offended ends all debate, and gives power to the offender, his points are left standing, and attacks on his person now make him sympathized, worse the vitriolic hatred portrayed by offended divides us, and even causes people to vote for the likes to trump just to spite the left regardless if we all burn.

    These debates for example, both sides actually sat down and talked reasonably (mostly) with a each other, and I feel that benefits the left in the long run as our ideas our superior.
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    ?? Not much. If someone slapped you in the face, what good would getting annoyed/offended do? That's still not a good argument that it's OK to slap someone in the face.
     
  23. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    But I did not slap anyone in the face. Words are not violence, and if you think words are then there are a whole lot of word people are going out to say that you won't be able to counter.
     

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