The conference hall debate!

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  1. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    a prism
     

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  3. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    Yes, that is a prism...
     
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    added to the diagram -
     

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  7. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    Indeed, you did... the real question is, can you make something meaningful from it?

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  8. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    By meaning something from it, do you mean a statement you can understand or an invention for use?

    Is white light being a frequency= 0 and an equilibrium to sight not alone something new?
     
  9. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    New, perhaps - however, it is still wrong.

    Do you understand what frequency is? Let me help you out:


    Now, knowing this, explain to me how you can have a frequency of zero.
     
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    by being a linearity without interference, wave-particle duality, no resistance , no wave.
     

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    this happens-
     

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  12. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    And thus we come to the crux of the issue:

    http://www.studyphysics.ca/newnotes/20/unit03_mechanicalwaves/chp141516_waves/lesson44.htm
    Frequency
    When we first started looking at SHM we defined period as the amount of time it takes for one cycle to complete... seconds per cycle

    • Frequency is the same sort of idea, except we’re just going to flip things around.
    • Frequency is a measurement of how many cycles can happen in a certain amount of time… cycles per second.
    • If a motor is running so that it completes 50 revolutions in one second, I would say that it has a frequency of 50 Hertz.
    • Hertz is the unit of frequency, and just means how many cycles per second.
      • It is abbreviated as Hz.
      • It is named after Heinrich Hertz, one member of the Hertz family that made many important contributions to physics.
    • In formulas frequency appears as an "f".
    Wavelength
    Wavelength is a property of a wave that most people (once they know what to look for) can spot quickly and easily, and use it as a way of telling waves apart. Look at the following diagram...

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    Figure 1
    • Any of the parts of the wave that are pointing up like mountains are calledcrests. Any part that is sloping down like a valley is a trough.
    • Wavelength is defined as the distance from a particular height on the wave to the next spot on the wave where it is at the same height and going in the same direction.
      • Usually it is measured in metres, just like any length.
    • There isn’t a special spot you have to start on a wave to measure wavelength, just make sure you are back to the same height going in the same direction. Most people do like to measure from one crest to the next crest (or trough totrough), just because they are easy to spot.

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    Figure 2

    This leads us to one of the most important formulas you will use when studying waves.

    • Frequency tells us how many waves are passing a point per second, the inverse of time.
    • Wavelength tells us the length of those waves in metres, almost like adisplacement.
    • If we multiply these two together, we are really multiplying 1/s and m… which gives us m/s, the velocity of the wave!

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    v = velocity of the wave (m/s)
    f = frequency (Hz)
    λ = wavelength (m)

    So, if frequency is zero, then the velocity is, by simple math, zero. Can you tell me what this would mean, TC?
     
  13. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    I understand crests and troughs and waves, the velocity is not zero, you just can not record the velocity because it is a linearity unless by interference.

    You can not directly see a Photon to record a speed using point (a) the sun and point (b) a distance finishing line.


    Any method to record the speed of light is interference that records a wave, you are adding resistance to and in affect making the wave happen.

    Consider how fast the fiqure 1 wave would be moving if it was a flat line and stretched, that is the difference and mistake I have being trying to explain about waves.

    With no resistant force opposed to light, there is no mechanism and no need for it to be a wave, like the falling water on a water fall.
     
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    You seem to me to be measuring a propagation speed rather than a free running speed.
     
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    Pic provided google,

    A metaphor picture, a Photon is a particle and travels freely until there is resistance force.
     

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    "Propagation" speed is how fast light propagates, and is c in a vacuum. "Free running speed" makes no sense. Are you referring to group velocity or phase velocity? All have different meanings.
     
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    I am meaning, if there is no opposing resistance , like a car travelling freely down a road ( excluding gravity for this example) , it will remain in a straight line and maintain its linear shape, until making contact with a resistance force.

    Where the car will become a ''crushed wave'' by propagation of its rear end continuing forward, continuing to apply force on the opposing force, however if the opposing force was less dense, the car would pass through the opposing force retaining more of its shape.
     
  18. Kittamaru Never cruel nor cowardly... Staff Member

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    *shakes head*

    You have, quite literally, a lesser grasp of physics than my 7 year old niece...
     
  19. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    You mean I have a will not just to accept mainstream ideas without being sure they are correct?

    Your seven year old niece has no choice to accept the educational discipline. I am an adult you can not put a x mark on my thoughts in attempt fear of grade failure.
     
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    Cars don't travel in straight lines when travelling freely. They need to be steered or they run off the road.

    Light does travel in a straight line in free space. Refraction or reflection can change this.
    So if a car drives through air in Denver it retains its shape, but if a car drives through air in Manhattan it will become a "crushed wave?"
     
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    Is Manhattan smoggy?
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No, but the air density is higher. The air density is lower in Denver, thus by your explanation, "the opposing force is less dense, and the car will pass through the opposing force retaining more of its shape."
     
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    air is not a solid or a magnetic field of the earth and opposes very little resistance to light regardless of density, light passes through the air with no impedance.
     
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