The conference hall debate!

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by theorist-constant12345, Feb 20, 2015.

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  1. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Which part of former does science not understand?
    ''white light'' is not a piece of bread, ''white light'' is the natural former, the visible spectrum 400nm-800nm are interference of the former, white light is not made of the later, the later is made out of the former, a former that has one frequency equal to sight.
    400nm-800nm are invention by the observer effect.

    Stop lying science.
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    What is the ingredient in bread? Answer the question!
     
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  5. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    I have no idea I am not a cook, bread is not light, the white of bread can be seen within the ''white light'' that is clear light.
    The bread modulates the single frequency of clear light.
     
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  7. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Baker, the word is baker..
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    So you don't understand math, you don't understand physics, you don't understand science, you don't even know what bread is made of.
     
  9. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Trying to flame again?, back to ignore .
     
  10. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Can I have a go as to the ingredients in bread?
     
  11. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Pointing out your ignorance is not flaming.
     
  12. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    atoms is the answer.
     
  13. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    You are making presumptions again with no basis, that is trolling trying to flame, I chose to ignore the bread question because it is totally irrelevant and stupid.
     
  14. Kittamaru Suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. Valued Senior Member

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    No... not even close... not even remotely similar.

    You are either LYING intentionally to avoid answering a question that you know wrecks your proposed idea, or you are criminally IGNORANT of the world around you. Which is it?

    No - atoms is not the answer. That is like answering your question "what is the frequency of white light" with "photons"

    Now, I am giving you no choice - answer the question.
     
  15. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Technically true, yet not the answer billvon wanted I think.
     
  16. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    huh, what the eck has bread got to do with light? light is not a solid for one, WHITE BROWN, BROWN BREAD, CURRENT BREAD, it is stupid to try and compare bread to light,
    It is the equivalent of saying I mix some coloured paints and get an outcome of white, the white is a mixture of colours, NO, the white is now a singular and no longer a mix.
     
  17. rpenner Fully Wired Valued Senior Member

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    Science doesn't work by naked assertion -- science works by observation and the testing of models to best predict how those observations make sense together.

    Lots of things in nature turn out to be mixtures of purer things. Water can be decomposed into pure hydrogen and pure oxygen and those can be recombined back into water. Hydrogen cannot be decomposed into other chemical compounds, so Hydrogen is a pure component, fundamental to chemistry. We call this pure component an element.

    That white light is a mixture was demonstrated by Newton. A prism or diffraction grating can separate white light from an incandescent source (the sun or a hot filament bulb) into a spectrum of pure color. A prism does this via dispersion while a diffraction grating does it directly based on the wavelength of each component.

    Each isolated component cannot be further broken down, so they are pure. Each isolated component has a wavelength between about 400 nm and 800 nm.
    Some components are invisible, such as those near 1000 nm -- but we have instruments which are sensitive to their presence.
    None of the isolated pure components are white -- therefore all white light is a mixture of various pure components.

    All or some of the isolated components may be reassembled using a prism or diffraction grating oriented in the proper direction, and doing so with all the components between about 400 nm and 800 nm we create a white light not seen in any one component. By mixing various parts we can explore how various mixtures are assigned colors by different people -- in doing so we discovered that there are at least 3 types of people who are blind to differences in color in various ways.

    Further study has been made of the way the human perceptual system relates visual stimulus with perception of color which is why 3 channels of information are sufficient to reproduce a wide range (but not all) colors on a computer screen or television. This is also the basic science between "color matching computers" at paint stores. Some combinations are close to white while having quite a different distribution of components than incandescent white light. Fluorescent tubes and white LED bulbs are examples of "white by design."

    The main reason that your ideas are not science is that you don't explain all of these observations with precision better than the current model. If you don't understand that, then you don't understand science.
     
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  18. Kittamaru Suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. Valued Senior Member

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    White light, Blue light, Laser light, sun light.

    You are, again, evading... and making false assumptions:

    Mixing all the colors of PAINT together will result in BLACK, because it will ABSORB all the colors of LIGHT hitting it.

    Mixing all the of LIGHT together results in WHITE because it IS all the colors together.

    You want to know the frequency of white light? Simple - the answer is the same as this question:

    What element is Air?
     
  19. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    hmm

    If we bake a bread a bread large enough will it collapse under its own gravity and start nuclear fusion and releasing energy in the form of photons?
     
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  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Cool! Then white light is made of frequencies. You have your answer.
     
  21. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    ''None of the isolated pure components are white -- therefore all white light is a mixture of various pure components.''

    Incorrect, the various pure components are by interference, the pure components are man made by interference or natural interference and are not part of a mixture of frequencies but rather interference of one frequency making various pure components.

    A Prism has no mechanism to untangle a mixture entanglement but does have a permeability mechanism by angle that changes the constant speed force by opposing force of angle of the prism making an offset of center of pressure of light force .

    Science is suggesting that I can add different coloured paints to a river and a prism will magically separate the paint back into individual colours. that in some way the prism has a magic mechanism to separate the mix.
     
  22. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    Can we go back to discussing bread? It makes more sense than this thread.
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The right filters could indeed filter out the paints and restore them back to their original colors. (That "science" stuff again.)
     
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