The Chechnya Question

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Hapsburg, Apr 4, 2005.

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  1. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    What do you think the Russians should do about the Chechen rebels, and chechnya in general?
    anything from giving it independance to flat out genocide and carpet bombing.
    what d'you think, eh?
     
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  3. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    i'd say give it independance. it'll help stop terrorist activity in russia.
     
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  5. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    Ye sure, they were given independence after maskhadov took a maternity ward hostage. soon after they attacked dagistan a neighbouring region.

    Second , the chechen people dont want independance they had a referendum not to long ago. The people who want it are the foreign terrorists , drug dealers , slave traders , arms traders and other criminals hoping on making a safe haven.

    independance would be good but is the bastards didnt try to take over the neighbouring area or tried to set up a criminal utopia.
     
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  7. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with what else you said about criminal utopia, etc, but I wouldn't count on that referendum, because of how Russia likes and has always liked to organize referendums in general.
    "It is not important who votes, it is important who counts the votes." (Stalin)
     
  8. Gustav Banned Banned

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    whaddhya think the latvians should do with all their russians?

    hmm?
     
  9. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Please shut up, this thread is about Checna. :bugeye:
     
  10. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    the fact that the referendum was not bought is visable by that is that you dont have chechen protestors, not to mention millions of chechens living in moscow and not else where, besides its not profitable for moscow to buy the referendum as it would result in mass unrest in the area from the real population.
     
  11. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Ah ok, you have a point.
     
  12. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    or the russians could just wipe them all out.
    'course that'd be a blatant disregard of international laws...
    but when has russia even abided by international law, or need i remind you of the "Prussian Holocaust" when the russkies slaughtered millions of ethnic germans in the baltic region?
     
  13. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    I bet you were sitting there waiting for someone to say "wipe em all out"

    the difference between prussia and chechneya is; chechneya is part of russia , prussia was not. the prussian holocaust happened mostly to the fact that the russian army enraged by the war was getting revenge for what the nazis did to them... its terrible I know (i dont support it), probably fault of stalin for saying; "we are now in the animal's lair, treat it like it treated you."
    but comparing ww2 to chechneya is stupid and totally irellevant, as for human rights violators look at america for a good example.
     
  14. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    A good example of russia supporting international law is not doing what you just sudgested.
     
  15. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    hmmmmm...
    you have a point.
    and i wasnt suggesting that they do it.
    i was saying that it's an option russia could take, but iti s unwise to do so.
     
  16. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    I felt like pertforming a personal genocide after beslan, and then probablly would have agreed with you, but got over it. Violence only promotes more violence, smartest thing to do is make a cease fire and wait for this hostile generation of terrorists widdows to die out, maybe the future holds more peace.
     
  17. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    that does make more sense.
    but, then again, russians are quite crazy and impatient.
    Tsar Peter I: "i want this city built now!"
    Commoner: "but, milord, that'll take many years or so, milord.."
    Pete: "i said NOOOWW!!! *cries and whines*"
    *joking, of course*
     
  18. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    Peter "the great" as he is always called was a totall asshole he shoule be renaimed to peter "the asshole tyrant" and forgoten in the mists of history.
     
  19. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    how dare you!!!
    he made Russia a great western power!
    Without him, Russia would be nothing!!!
    how was he an asshole?
     
  20. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    Well killing about a million people in trying to build a metropolis in a swamp...

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  21. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    who cares if he killed a million peasants?
    they're fuckin' peasants!
    they don't matter to any-fucking-one!!!
    BOZHE TSARYA KHRANI!!!
     
  22. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    oh, and that metropolis in the swamp has suceeded, has it not? its still around today.
     
  23. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    AHAHA funny

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    erm well the its still around but instead of being an asshole and picking a swamp to build it in he could have chosen less cold and wet and sinking ground and maybe less people owuld have died in the process?
     
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