The Big Bang and Magnetic fields

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by river, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Typical rants of a conspiracy/anti mainstream pusher...

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    Chinglu was consistently asking similar when they were already answered, and then refused to answer anything put to him...
     
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  3. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    ...jump!
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    tsk tsk tsk......
    This is getting quite sad.

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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    To rivers:



    Maybe he's getting advice from his anti mainstream peers......

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  8. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    I pointed that out to you in my Post #19 - still you choose to parrot, repeat and propagate the "sadness"...ad nauseam.
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Post 19 was certainly the first post that started with the rubbish of that we all agree.
    But you should rest assured, that I will continue to repeat and copy and paste science, when and where it's necessary, and will continue to refute the ratbag cult out there, with their many unsupported anti mainstream claims and pseudoscience gobblydook.
     
  10. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    To wit, the OP :
    My Post #19 :
    Where in the ^^above^^ are these "unsupported anti mainstream claims and pseudoscience gobblydook(sic)"?

    I then clearly re-stated my considered truly honest answer to the OP, in my Post #43 (Layman's Terms) :
    Where in the ^^above^^ are these "unsupported anti mainstream claims and pseudoscience gobblydook(sic)"?
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    To all and sundry, you are invited to read post 19 in its entirety, and judge for yourself, its ugly provocative emotional gobblydook nature....


    At the same time the troll in question, insidiously side steps the usual inferences made by rivers and his long standing record in supporting Plasma/Electric Universe nonsense in the OP......

    Notwithstanding the post was answered anyway thus.......

    and


    then answered in the following fashion....

    which was answered thus.....


    and....

    and


    and


    Then we arrive at the infamous post 19, which the only intent was the usual bleeding heart support for probably one of this forum's most validated trolls


    Post 19 was then answered in likewise fashion.....

     
  12. river Valued Senior Member

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    How does space and time evolve without space and time ?



    which was answered thus.....

    How does any force exist without energy and matter ?
     
  13. river Valued Senior Member

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    Neither space or time have a force associated with them
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Don't they????
    Space/time is speculated to have a CC/DE/Quintessence component, of which we know little about.
    But you've been informed of that before.


    The logic of the conspiracy meme is to question everything the ‘establishment'—be it government or scientists—says or does, even on the most hypothetical and speculative grounds, and to demand immediate, comprehensive and definitive answers to all questions. A failure to give convincing answers is then used as proof of conspiratorial deception. Meanwhile, conspiracy theorists offer their own alternative theories with the flimsiest of evidence, challenging the authorities to prove them wrong.


    In essence, what you are pushing in regards to Plasma/Electric theory being mainly responsible for the Universe and the way it is, has been peer reviewed and discarded.
    Gravity is the prime builder of what we see today in the observable Universe.
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, and you havn't answered that question yet rivers...way way back up there somewhere...

    Again, please show me how EME is responsible for the building and shaping of planets, stars, and galaxies?
     
  16. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    ...got daft?
     
  17. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    How did the BB bang?

    Why did the BB bang?

    How did the BB evolve space and time??

    Why did it evolve space and time??

    Why does matter exist??




    Why does energy exist???

    What was before the BB???



    The logic of the conspiracy meme is to question everything the ‘establishment'—be it government or scientists—says or does, even on the most hypothetical and speculative grounds, and to demand immediate, comprehensive and definitive answers to all questions. A failure to give convincing answers is then used as proof of conspiratorial deception. Meanwhile, conspiracy theorists offer their own alternative theories with the flimsiest of evidence, challenging the authorities to prove them wrong.

    Conspiracy theorists typically overlook lapses by their supporters but are quick to pounce on any flaw on the part of their opponents.


    Conspiracy theories appeal to people who are discontented with the established institutions of their society and especially with elites in that society. They are likely to believe that conditions are worsening for people like themselves and that the authorities do not care about them. A conspiracy theory gives believers someone tangible to blame for their perceived predicament, instead of blaming it on impersonal or abstract social forces. The meme becomes a habit of thought: the more people believe in one conspiracy, the more likely they are to believe in others


    much more at.....
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2897118/
     
  18. river Valued Senior Member

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    None of which answers the question of how space and time have force , neither CC or DE are about space or time having a force
     
  19. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    ...got daft?
     
  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    So pad

    How does space and time have innate forces unto themselves ?
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    That's been answered many times in many ways...but as others have noted, you are not interested in any evidence or predictions that support mainstream.
    Thats why you have been banned and moderated on occasions and banned elsewhere.

    So rivers you still lacking the intestinal fortitude to answer the question I put to you?
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The facts one must be aware of when arguing with conspiracy nutters and anti mainstream kooks are many.
    I suppose that's why many experts advise in just turning a deaf ear to them. I don't believe that is entirely for the better.

    The average conspiracy theorist/anti mainstream kook will argue with NASA, Nobel-prize winners and every reputable expert in the world despite having fewer qualifications than the average primary school student..
    They insidiously see logical discourse, peer review and the scientific method, as a conspiracy in itself and unfair.


    They wear the tag 'thinking for oneself "as a badge of honour"on their sleeve, and see them selves as the only one with any knowledge,
    in a world full of sheep. Quite tragic really.
     

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