Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by UltiTruth, Nov 19, 2002.
i think raj does his own translations
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I didnt say God <i>as</i> a dimension.I said God might reside is the Dimension where There is Perfect state of consiousness(Heaven).And may be that is the end of our Soul EVolution.When we project,we enter another Dimension called Astral Dimension closer to Reality.
Perhaps that is why it is said that when Shiva's third eye will open it will be the the end of the world,As a new Dimension will be added...
On the otherhand, Shiva's third eye could be a metaphor for blackhole formation in a nearby system that showers massive neutron radiation on earth to destroy all life....
The things that Gods Taught us could be interpreted in many ways...Since i think during those times one could not understand Dimensions exactly.So gods found a way to impart knowledge of theirs through various ways.Think about it.I have heard several times that God Resides in Heaven.Indra is Lord and King of heaven.The heaven is a place where everyone is happy.It is a place with perfect consiousness state.Another Dimension stated.
what do you think?
“Perfect state of consciousness” can we call that Heaven ? I feel this could also inform us of the problems in future and we tend to worry for that unnecessarily. This might induce a state of laziness as we know what’s on our way. Since this also initiate a Godly feeling of hyper ego which might also result in agony at the end with the knowledge that man will never become God. So altogether its nothing but another Maya (illusion) by the great magician He Himself.
This perfect state of consciousness could also stop the time as the deliberate query about any instance of an event (time) brings back memories of complete information. And this will allow us to travel in time, and I feel this will be the only time when we feel our self, our soul, rather than the end of it. We will see our self different from the rest of the world; we will find our self out of the control of time and the events. An independent existence within a very fragile, predictable, chain of events, triggered from the human thoughts.
Even at this stage we carry the ego of body as body is required for senses to exist. We know the rest of the universe except us. And by the blessing of the Lord Shiva, if the opening of the Third Eye of the Lord is happening to him, then his ego gets dispersed by the sheer amount of love the Lord has for everything existing. We will get amazed by the quantity of love that he has imparted to the universe, we will lose the ego of the mind, and this is the only time when we loose our self and join the almighty for eternity.
The destroying power of the third eye is only for the ego of Aham (knowledge of self). Ahamkaram (arrogance) because of the (non-existent) heightened thoughts of self, is what is going to get destroyed. This destructive power will finish any other self derived thoughts and feelings and push the individual to the universal knowledge and existence.
I have a question: what is the difference
between Uttara Gita and Uttara Kanda?
First of all Uttara Gita is part of the Bhagavath Geeta, and Uttara Kandam is one of the seven sections of Ramayanam.
In Uttara Gita, the Yogic practices are detailed with its results in its originality, but in Uttara Kandam the philosophy of life is detailed from a different perspective.
Uttara Gita is the advice given by Lord Krishna to Arjuna, Uttara Kanda is the story of Sita and her sons after they Sita has been discarded by Sri Ram.
One contains intricate details of Yoga and meditation, and other details the philosophy of being human.
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Attended a recent seminar on "Contemporary Corporate Challenges: Ancient Indian Solutions" conducted recently.
Basically it was trying to find solutions primarily based on the Gita!
Sorry but if God is pure awareness as emptiness
then how does a soul climb the chain of
To where does one climb to reach God?
My understanding of Jnana is that a person
knows the Self by continually seeking
the source of the I until
the knot of the ego is completely detatched
from the body. This
knot, according to Ramana Maharshi,
is an energy spot to the right of the heart
yet at the sametime not in the body -- and
as pointed out thus far -- identified with
the consciousness of the SUN.
According to David Godman, who is the biographer
of Poonjaji, Ramana's most well-known disciple,
only a few people have
actually achieved SELF-REALIZATION.
Ramana Maharshi says that there IS NO EVOLUTION
only pure awareness.
Actually I AGREE WITH ALAIN DANIELOU
who teaches that the THREE does not collapse
into the ONE
Personally I think that Advaita Vedanta
is the origins of the All-Seeing Eye Freemasonic
External Path of DE-EVOLUTION.
This is exposed, unintentionally, by Prof. Abraham Seidenberg's
"The Ritual Origins of Geometry" -- (a popular essay in Vedic
studies): Squaring of the Circle for Brahman sacrfice altars
in 3,000 B.C. Seidenberg also promotes human sacrifice
as social engineering to maintain creation as the
separation of heaven and earth -- in the academic journal
It Was At That Time that INFINITY became a CLOSED SET
Necessary to create the exact same area for the square
and the circle.
THE ONE or the SELF that is defined by the Brahmans
instead of the Adi Shakti -- which is the Dravidian
Taoist-Basque-- Shaivite -- Cosmic Mother Trinity -- Also Expressed by the Pythagorean 1:2:3:4 whereby 1 goes into HEKATE the INDETERMINATE.
Esoteric Buddhism was an attempt to deal with the "DEAD-TREE ZEN"
INDIFFERENT EMPTINESS of JNANA (Dyana-Chan-Zen) Yoga.
In otherwords -- just hiding out in the Empty Awareness
-- even if you completely know your SELF
and stating that only the SELF is really and
since I know the SELF, I am not doing anything
since ANything that I do is actually Brahman.
You can see the moral problems this can create.
This is the actually closely connected to the Tree of Life
and Knowledge from Genesis (equivalent with Earth and Heaven
respectively). Brahman is the "I" that separates or harmonizes
I agree with Prof. David Loy's critique of Brahman in
NONDUALITY: A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS, Yale Press.
This issue that I've exposed continues to be
a heated debate on Indian philosophy listserves
and will continue to be so until the Apocalypse
happens. Sorry to expose the problem again.
My latest research is available at the conspiracy
forum of Guerrillanews.com -- just do an extensive
search under my name over the last six months.
For further information please see my "The Actual Matrix
Plan" published online under my name, Drew Hempel, M.A.
Off topic question ...
Are you related to Mark Hempel?
That depends...Mark Hempel of what location?
That depends? On what? The Mark Hempel I'm referring
to is the webmaster for this site: Wingmakers.com
It's possible but not that I know of.
Very likely an extended family member.
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Druj- what is your understanding of Jianism? (I hope I'm even coming close in spelling that right)
That is a whole different topic....
Jainism of Mahavira?
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