Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Daecon, Jul 26, 2015.
Problem is you have to deal with humans.
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Consistently winning wars that one has started is so rare an accomplishment - so unusual a bucking of the odds - that the few who managed it are famous worldwide and throughout history. We record their names and their victories, we write history from their perspectives.
We could maybe rethink that custom. The history of Alexander the Conquerer could be recorded as major volcanic eruptions are - not from the volcano's point of view.
At least then the various gambling fallacies involved - the failures to properly estimate one's odds of "winning" - would not be exacerbated by systematic omissions of accounts of loss.
Let the leaders of the battling countries fight it out , between themselves . No soldiers , armour , aircraft nor warships .
Which begs the question:
What if "winning" is not a goal of the war?
Then the leadership qualifications would include WWE credentials. Not a plus IMNSHO.
That's a point.
But not losing is always a goal.
The guys who start them never figure to lose, themselves.
Sign treaties. Be conquered. Victor sympathizes, apologizes. Land. Resources. Profit
Hell, historians can't even nail down that Sun Tzu wrote "the art of war" - it may well be likely that he existed and wrote the core of the treatise, but it is also determined that the text was modified or added to in later generations.
You can purchase annotated books that have the text, a translation and history of the text. One such book is "Sun Tzu The Illustrated Art of War" by Samuel B. Griffith
The Chinese said that invaders' grandchildren would be Chinese.
How are wars won when they never end?
Was that for me?
The best way to win a war is to sucker some other dumb schmuck into fighting it for you.
Byzantium lasted for about 100 years by getting some other dumb schmuck to fight their wars for them.
Netanyahu is trying to get the us to attack Iran on Israel's behalf.
He seems to think that the USA is a nation of dumb schmucks ready to toady up and do our Israeli and Saudi master's bidding(most likely based on the actions of the previous 3 administrations?).
Are our leaders really that stupid?
Have you seen our president lately?
That's how stupid they are.
The previous eight administrations - maybe ten. The establishment of Israel as a borderless, expanding, religion based, heavily armed State firmly backed by the US was completed by 1967.
And it's more Chevron's and Exxon's bidding than Saudi masters.
in #72 above................100 is wrong
that should read:
Byzantium lasted for about 1000 years by getting some other dumb schmuck to fight most of their wars for them.
When people say, "Fight," they mean, "Win."
Unless they're the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.
A very clean bomb.
Not necessarily. I'm sure the folks who got the US into the proxy battles of the Cold War were happy to win if they could - but the benefit was in keeping the contracts coming without losing.
Separate names with a comma.