Tesla vs Einstein

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by birch, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Listen to the dull and the ignorant for they too have their story... R. Kippling I think...
    With respect if someone starts talking flat Earth one concludes they are not worth hearing out.. Now ofcourse he maygo on to list truth after truth but you must understand why I gave up.
    I thi k Tesla was of the belief that gravity workedvia an eather or push type system like LeSage had in mind.
    I like that idea also but I dont think it will replace GR.
    I think some see gravity workingvia a ele tromagnetic system but I dont know that it is any more than an idea or belief.
    Alex
     
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  3. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    In the interests of literary accuracy, this seems to be from "Desiderata" by the US writer Max Ehrmann, and was written in 1927: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderata

    But I agree that the sentiments are ones Kipling might agree with.
     
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  5. birch Valued Senior Member

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    What is the difference between electrostatic attraction and gravity? isn't it essentially the same whereas 'gravity' seems to have longer range and weaker because of space/time curvature?
     
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  7. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Don't kid yourself as you are one of them also as you are certainly dull and don't know anymore than they. What? you think being condescending to others because you make sure to strictly follow mainstream scientific models so you won't be considered a quack somehow qualifies as being superior? How superficial. At least they have some ideas.
     
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  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Everything in science is a "theory", aside from the physical observations themselves.
    No, please answer my question to you, before asking further questions yourself.
     
  9. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks.
    I only ever had two passages framed on my wall so I should have known.
    "If" by Kippling on one wall and Desiderata on the other.
    Each impressed me greatly.
    Alex
     
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  10. birch Valued Senior Member

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    The larger an object, the weaker electromagnestism is, so therefore what's called gravity.
     
  11. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    What is wrong with being dull and ignorant by being dull and ignorant I find that everything is new and exciting. I dont have to hold my end up in a conversation because everyone else leads more exciting lives than me and being ignorant I am always learning new things.
    Alex
     
  12. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    OK let's rewind. What I asked you, about the clip you were describing, was: " How do they get an attractive force, that is never repulsive, exerted by electrically neutral bodies?"

    Can you answer that? Because it is pretty crucial to any idea that the two could be the same.
     
  13. birch Valued Senior Member

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    If you had bothered to peruse the clip, can you speedread or fastforward or is that strange to you? he is saying that gravity is nothing more than electromagnetism losing it's di electricity so 'gravity' is not a separate entity.
     
  14. birch Valued Senior Member

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    I never said it was, you were being condescending and now changing your tune.
     
  15. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Ah. Losing its "di electricity". As yer do.

    Good, well, I don't think this subject need detain us any longer.
     
  16. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I was having a go at the flat Earth chap not you and I am sincerely sorry that I did not make that clear.
    One of my little sayings is... Never look up to anyone nor look down upon anyone. I liveby that as best I can.
    Alex
     
  17. birch Valued Senior Member

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    You never debunked it, if it's so easy and obvious then do it. He explains it starting around 15:00. Why do people have problems believing in gravity? And who the fuk is 'us'? Do you think you are ganging up on this thread?
     
  18. birch Valued Senior Member

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    You weren't doing anything but trolling. What did you contribute except to say you didn't bother to finish the clip? You didn't even bother viewing the clip nor did exchemist.
     
  19. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    "Us" simply meant you and I together.

    One does not "debunk" something that makes no sense. The video is fairly obviously just another example of the ubiquitous YouTube junk, just as I thought. You'd probably waste less time watching cat videos.
     
  20. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    That doesn't match what we observe. Gravity is associated with mass, whereas electromagnetism is associated with charge. Gravity is always attractive, whereas electromagnetism can be either attractive or repulsive. We can see gravitational effects on objects that possess no net electric charge.
     
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  21. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Jupiter does have rings. Just very wispy ones.
     
  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I started and gave up for reasons stated. I would not expect you to look at something you found contrary to your views asking you to wade through to pick out some point.
    If you have something to discuss then please raise it.
    And seriously do you think trying to insult me does you any good, you must know I dont care at best and even if you make a list you will not cover all my faults that I will happily acknowledge... However if insulting me makes you happy go ahead it just seems silly to me.
    Raise the good points in the clip but please understand flat Earth chat turns me off.
    Alex
     
  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    That doesn't work.

    We can easily arrange to have two charged metal balls - a large one and a small one - that each have exactly the same electrical charge. Moreover, we can easily arrange things so the larger ball exerts a much stronger electrical force on other charges than the smaller ball does.
     

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