Terrorist ? Whats that ?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Allahs_Mathematics, Mar 28, 2003.

  1. Allahs_Mathematics Mar'Ifah Ahl As-Suffah Registered Senior Member

    Usama Bin Laden is seen as a terrorist by the average Joe , the same goes for Abu Sayaf , Hamas , Hizbollah , Islamic Hihad etc etc etc .

    But why are these people terrorists ?

    Terrorist simply points to a hostile person/group , and it goes through ceveral fases of identification before the word "terrorist" is used .

    What would a guy have to do or be to become a terrorist ?
    R there any rules to begin with , or are these identification processes simply randomly (unconsciously) chosen from millions of possibility , with the only demand of "fitting in" with the rest of picture . And when this term was re-introduced on 9-11 , Joe average saw a picture of a "terrorist" : He was Arab , Muslim , and didnt like jews or amerikans .

    And there u have it , ur terrorist . So the rule becomes , if u r like UBL on various levels(look/act/smell?) , u must be a terrorist ?
    Ofcourse this is getting a problem with other peoples who rnt liked , and dont look like Usama , like Jung Ill for instance .

    Then the axis of evil is created , to understand the terroristic outcome of a nation , who becomes a state that support terror .

    And on it goes the list of motives for people being terrorists and terrorists being bad people .

    Ofcourse its pretty difficult for those who are manipulated and are manipulating their own system , to identify and define Terrorism .

    Let me define terrorism : When a group/person organizes themselves to revolt against the opression of the hostile state , they are called terrorists .

    Its pretty simple , as long as these groups are the enemies of the states of Israel and Amerika , they r terrorists , since it is Israel and Amrika that (re)invented the word , and applying it .

    Its because they scare Amerika and Israel , since Terrorist means nothing more than Terror-Ist(Applier) . A terrorist can only be called Terrorist by the one who feels Terrorized .

    But what would be the outcome of a sincere "Terror" measurement , bitween the 100 m amerikans and 200 m Arabs ?
    would the psychological terror born on 9-11 be bigger than the physical terror born in '48

    So who is the TerrorIst here ?

    I know i would be called a terrorist(supporter) , and as long as its by the people who are responsible for this terror they can so greatly define , im happy to be your terrorist .

    Its very interesting to know how Amerikans feel about this , since it is them everybody is pointing at , and in the Arab world tahts been happening for the last 50 years .

    Do u consider urself to be terrorists , because u terrorize and have terrorized about the entire planet , politically/economically/military/genocidical .

    Or is it just a cry for help when feeling that ur final day has come ?
    Havent u heard of how it ends with great empires ?
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  3. pillowtalk Registered Senior Member

    and do not forget, US is trained Osama to be a terorist.. He was a good guy working for US when he was terrorising in Russia but became a terrorist when he did the same stuff in america..

    soo, terorist means in america; PEOPLE WHO GIVE HARM TO AMERICAN AND ISREALI PEOPLE..

    believe me, they truely believe it..

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  5. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

    Terrorism is when person or army invokes fear in a population by
    "shocking and awing".
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  7. Preacher_X Registered Senior Member

    americas tactic of "shock and awe" (which basically means send a couple of fighter jets to bomb entire areas just for a few terrorists) display their complete cowardice in ground milatry operations.

    imagine ther was ONE resistence fighter in a house amongst a busy urban area that was shooting at American troops, america would never go in with soldiers to kill that person, they;re too scared, they'd call for backup and destory the entire area just for that one guy.

    a country like that will one day meet its match. sincere mujahadeen will never accept defeat and when that day comes when America faces a huge army of mujahdeen they will lose no doubt, inshAllah.
  8. ranxer Registered Senior Member

    jesus was a terrorist

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    as an american i oppose a ton of our foriegn policy and get branded as a terrorist supporter.. i'll certainly defend jesus anyday, and stand against the corporate elite.. after i get illegally locked up for peacefully protesting, will i be barred from leaving this country? will americans be welcome in other countries when america turns into a full blown military dictatorship?
  9. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

    Terrorism: The action of a non-state organization to intentionally harm or kill innocent people in order to further a political cause.


    As defined by the FBI, "the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives". This definition includes three elements: (1) Terrorist activities are illegal and involve the use of force. (2) The actions are intended to intimidate or coerce. (3) The actions are committed in support of political or social objectives. (FEMA-SS)
  10. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

    Jesus was not a terrorist, he never killed anyone, and his objectives were not political.
  11. ranxer Registered Senior Member

    he was labeled a terrorist against the roman church and crucified.

    the 'state' doesnt need physical violence to label someone a terrorist
  12. midpath Registered Member

    It seems the common definition of terrorism has changed to include state organizations. We hear so much about various "terrorist states" even though the US themselves can be an example. To fight the democratically elected Nicaragua government the US CIA mined all of the harbours around that country, to sink commercial ships trying to supply the basic items to the country, a deliberate premeditated attempt to murder innocent people and terriorize the supply routes into Nicaragua. The US was fined 17 million dollars by a world court and as usual they refuse to pay when they lose an international legal ruling. So it's a case of "terrorism is horrrible unless we are the ones doing it". It encouraging that many Americans do object, but they have always been outnumbered by the masses.
  13. Vienna Registered Senior Member

    The Japanese said they would never accept defeat too.
  14. OliverJ Banned Banned

    Delusion has finally set in... WE could destroy your kind with a blink of an eye..... but keep preacing preacher , just dont blink.
  15. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

    With that kind of thinking, I would say the "we" end of that statement is always looking for a fight.
  16. Vienna Registered Senior Member

    That "Delusion" has kept America on red alert for the last three years - don't underestimate it
  17. StarOfEight A Man of Taste and Decency Registered Senior Member

    The Roman Church didn't give a fuck about Jesus. The Jews didn't like him for claiming he'd destroy and rebuild the temple, and the Romans didn't like him for stirring up the Jews, but the Roman Church didn't give a fuck about the rantings of a fringe prophet in the asshole of the empire.

    And yeah, I've heard how it ends with great empires. Y'all should know. Five hundred years ago, Islam was riding high. Now, Muslim countries are the asshole of the world. And I know ... that's our fault. When y'all commit atrocities, it's 'cause you're oppressed. When we commit them, it's 'cause we're infidels. Same shit, different day. Why is that the more I come into contact with Islam, the more I lose respect for Islam?

    If y'all want to blame the shitty condition of the Arab world on somebody, how's about you start with your own governments? Sure, the Europeans fucked you over. They also fucked Southeast Asia over, and Hong Kong, Taiwan, and South Korea didn't sit on their asses, blaming it on the ever-present Yid scapegoat. Y'all did, and as a result, the Islamlic world's regressed into a repressed, hateful self-parody.
  18. Zero Banned Banned

    The question is, can a subset X of set A, where A is a subset of {all of homo sapiens}, can X be used to pass a general statement about A?

    Unless you're blinded by ad hominem rage, you might venture a 'no'.
  19. buffys Registered Loser Registered Senior Member

    true, the stories written about jesus say nothing about killing (by his hands) but not political? GIVE ME A BREAK! the whole story is about politics. The bible is a frigg'n political, campaign guide book. The new testement could have been titled, "How To Mold a Campaign: An Underdog's Guide".
  20. Bells Staff Member

    Are you George Bush incognito... trolling the forums looking to see how the Americans will vote? Because that is something only Bush would say.

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  21. Working Class Hero Skank Monster Registered Senior Member

    Well Terrorist is an idiot term. By the logic they push, it seems that the American Revolutionaries were terrorists, ie - fighters without the backing of a state.
  22. Vienna Registered Senior Member

    A terrorist is defined by the people who are being terrorised.

    Islamics terrorise the West.

    America terrorise the Middle East
  23. The Flemster Unstoppable sex machine Registered Senior Member

    Jesus was no more a terrorist that Winnie the Pooh. They are both fictional characters. But that's off-topic.
    If, by blowing seven shades of shit out of some mudhut village full of Jawas to get at one suspected terrorist, saves just one life in a free country, or prevents the death of another innocent civillian, then so be it.
    You can't make an omlette without blowing up a few Muslims.

    Praise Alan!

    The Flemster.

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