Taking the Plunge

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  1. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg16822664-300-taking-the-plunge/
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  3. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Listen can you hear it?

    Listen hard

    It's the sound of the world's smallest violin playing


    "WE DON'T CARE"

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  5. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Not my problem.
     
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  7. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Congratulations you just made Iggy in one bound

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  8. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, yeah, we all know the Earth is the center of the Universe.

    None of you care about science, you just like the fantasy of monopoly on the truth. And ain't nobody gonna shake you out of that boat.
     
  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    WOW!

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  10. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    I know. "Kiss my cardinal ring, Galileo. I don't care what goes around what."
     
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  12. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    And you still refuse to listen to him. A man that dug up half the South African hominin archive, and you refuse to listen to him, only because you are too terrified to change your paradigm, as the panicky apes you all still are. The finest idea in free science the last half century, and you deny it out of primal hysteria. As much as creationists and oil tyrants, you too freely reject the scientific method in the face of an inconvenient truth.

    We are old beach apes. That this obvious, fully Darwinian conclusion about human origin is still laughed at is a travesty of Galilean proportions. None of you care about free science!
     
  13. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    As I've said many times before, the impartial scientist is under no obligation to listen to the ravings of every nutter on the street corner.

    Now you are just such a nutter. You have been banging on about this, obsessively, for literally years, on several science forums. In that time the arguments have ben amply aired - and as far as I am concerned, convincingly dismissed.

    If you now have a reputation as a partially deranged monomaniac, it is entirely your own fault. Slightly cruelly I quite enjoy putting 50p in your slot from time to time and observing the lights starting to flash and the pinging noises. But nobody is listening any more.
     
  14. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Which includes Phillip Tobias, obviously. And Desmond Morris. And Dan Dennett. And David Attenborough.

    Exactly, as far as you're concerned — 'cause you don't really have to read them heretical texts. It has never been convincingly dismissed. Never.

    You ever had a discourse with a creationist? You ever been pissed down your back by people not knowing what they're talking about? For years? When not a single one of them is capable of giving you a straight answer as to why you're so obviously wrong? Ever been burned at the stake for reading banned volumes everyone thinks they know the content of, even though it's quite clear they don't?

    How would you respond to such pigheaded ignorance? I've spent all my patience for human stupidity a long time ago.

    Exactly. We all know the Earth is the center of the Universe.

    There is no free science. Only might makes right. And that's why creationists will win the long game and pull the West back into the Dark Ages. 'Cause our only weapon against their amassed front was the scientific method. And that is freely ignored by anthropology too in the face of inconvenient truths. Who really cares about human origin?
     
  15. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    • Lets not resort to schoolyard ad hom attacks, shall we?
    Is that enough value for your 50p, you ignorant little shit?
     
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  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Nonsense! The aquatic ape theory is the center of the universe, and must be defended against all facts at every turn. Anyone who disagrees is a HERETIC! who hates science!
     
  17. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Can you tell me, please, this obvious reason for why oh why it is such obvious nonsense to draw analogies between the traits that set Homo sapiens clearly apart from the other hominoids, its closest genetic cousins, and to traits observed in other mammalian aquatics? As dating back to Alister Hardy's original presentation in 1960.

    I have been waiting for that answer for decades now. You could get the lasting impression, that that answer simply isn't out there. 'Cause Hardy's suggestion is probably true.

     
  18. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Don't worry. You don't really have to answer. You don't have to read them heretical studies about seafood and the human brain, about the biochemistry of human vs. hippo sweat, about human diving capability matching sea otters', about surfer's ear growth in Homo erectus skulls. We all know, the Earth is the center of the Universe. Go back to sleep and wait for the triumph of the creationists, 'cause in the real world, might does make right. Fuck that beach ape, this inconvenient truth for the cardinals. Piltdown ad nauseam!

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  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It's not nonsense at all. Nor is it nonsense to draw analogies between man and the Gods of ancient literature, or man's immune system and computer virus prevention software, or man's brain and a computer, or man's evolution and the depictions of creation in the Bible.

    However, it is quite possible to draw nonsense _conclusions_ from any of the above. Which many people (including you) have done.
     
  20. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Heh heh. I'll let it run for a while and then rummage for another 50p.

    If I can be bothered.
     
  21. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe find I different hobby, and I gotta' say, that was one cool rant.
     

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