Syrian War: Israel Returns Fire

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  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    That Syria Thing: Israel's In

    This is not encouraging news:

    Israel was drawn into the Syrian civil war for the first time on Sunday, firing warning shots into the neighboring country after a stray mortar shell from across the border hit an Israeli military post.

    The Israeli military said the mortar fire caused no injuries or damage at the post in the Golan Heights, which Israel captured from Syria in the 1967 Mideast war and then annexed. But in recent weeks, incidents of errant fire from Syria to the north have multiplied, leading Israel to warn that it holds Syria responsible for fire on Israeli-held territory.

    "A short while ago, a mortar shell targeted an IDF (Israel Defense Forces) post in the Golan Heights," said army spokeswoman Lt. Col. Avital Leibovich. "We answered with a warning shot toward Syrian areas. We understand this was a mistake and was not meant to target Israel and then that is why we fired a warning shot in retaliation."

    The Israeli military also said it filed a complaint through United Nations forces operating in the area, stating that "fire emanating from Syria into Israel will not be tolerated and shall be responded to with severity." Israel returned fire with an anti-tank missile.


    (Teibel)

    To the one, Israel is well within its rights to protect its borders, and that regardless of how anyone feels about the Golan Heights.

    To the other, the last thing the region needs is Israel getting involved in the Syrian war.

    This could get even uglier, by orders of magnitude, very quickly.
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    Notes:

    Teibel, Amy. "Israel fires warning shots into Syria for first time". Associated Press. November 11, 2012. CSMonitor.com. November 11, 2012. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Late...fires-warning-shots-into-Syria-for-first-time
     
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  3. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Trigger-happy clowns.
     
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  5. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    This conflict can easily pull Syria's neighbors into its orbit if the clowns don`t keep their fingers off the triggers. Syria has its hands full with the internal conflict and in no way threatens its neighbors, but I would not be surprised if stray mortars were tools in the arsenal of elements of the Opposition that are trying to draw other players in. Time for cool heads - this could get really ugly.
     
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  7. p-brane Registered Senior Member

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    This appears to be a nonevent and not really worthy of a thread. Oh wait, I forgot that this is the forum where if Israel puts a toe wrong everyone starts screaming bloody murder, which is by the way exactly what`s been going on in syria for the last year. Any of you want to discuss that? Didn`t think so.
     
  8. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Turkey's been the main foreign player on the opposition side and has lost lives and a fighter jet in this conflict already, and even they don't want to get involved. I don't think Israel has any interest in bailing Assad out by letting him turn this into another war between Arabs and Jews, it'll be limited retaliatory fire for anything coming their way. A set of Israeli airstrikes on Syria's airforce bases would deliver Syria to the opposition on a silver platter, but I don't think they'd want to risk the unforeseeable repercussions, and I don't think Assad would be crazy enough to test the Israelis when he can't even defeat his own citizens on the ground with their vastly inferior weaponry.

    If Assad does get desperate enough to pull in foreign actors like Israel, expect Hezbollah to drag all of Lebanon into the mess and for Iran to be heavily involved at least indirectly as well. Plus he does have a massive arsenal of chemical weapons and I'm sure many countries are watching them closely for any suspicious or threatening maneuvres but not eager to push him to the point of using them. So it looks like a one-off, the Israelis know it was an accident and they're just trying to deter the Syrians from any further provocations.
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Whats more of an event is that the Syrian opposition are trying to get organized, if they can form and organization that can represent the people to Syria then the UN can side with them and and arm them.
     
  10. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    If they receive enough weapons (i.e. heavy artillery, air defenses) they'll finally be able to knock out those airbases, and then it's curtains for Assad. I think he's toast anyhow, but this would certainly speed up the process. All we'd need to do is hit his chemical warheads if he tries to move them into firing positions, that's the biggest danger on the international/humanitarian stage.
     
  11. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    I think your assuming a level of rational thought on Israel's part that quite frankly is not justified in believing exists. Is Israel going to bail assad out no. but given their love of (badly managed) covert ops I wouldn't put beyond the realm of possibilty that they would get involved covertly or may already be involved covertly. keeping this pot boiling is probably in Israel's interests.
     
  12. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    I just seen a article in the paper today about this... :shrug:

    If Syria keeps this up Israel will get fed up. And WW3 will occur. And America will be fighting in the middle east again. Could be years but it may be sooner.

    I am sad to see this occurring. Or reoccurring.
     
  13. arauca Banned Banned

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    So you will put your uniform on again , and become an exterminator
     
  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    wonder when someone was going to start bashing the palestinians not surprised its you.



    and you'll have to forgive me from taking anything for the IDF for granted. but it doesn't surprise me at all that you'll believe anything they say.



    I say people are allowed to do what it takes to protect themselves from conquerors but hey maybe you like wars of aggression.
     
  16. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    only if they get the supply chains for ammo up and running. and protected. look at the palestinian civil war. some of the arab armies had heavy equipment but no ammunition.
     
  17. Balerion Banned Banned

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    So do you believe the video or don't you? In the second sentence you insinuate that the story is bogus; in the third, you defend the alleged act.

    Is it that you can't make up your mind, or is it that you feel the need to cover all your bases?
     
  18. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Probably the second point. For the already-decided mind, a point can play on both sides. How is it "bashing", one wonders?

    Anyway, conclusion: Middle East probably heating up again.
     
  19. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    An exterminator? You have issues...

    And IF I could join back up I would not mind going where the US government needs me. But you don't know me, or care that I am unable because I am "damaged" now. Due to a incident after I left. I am unable to carry the 50 pound ruck an do things like I used to.
     
  20. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I hate to say I told you so, but I did. Smells like conflict a-brewing. But you all knew this would happen again anyway.

     
  21. Bells Staff Member

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    Among the 9 killed, there is Mr Masharawi's 11 month old son.. Killed when Israel's forces bombed his house in their attack:

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    Israel will likely create more enemies than they can possibly kill in this conflict.
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    As if they weren't already enemies. It's a war not a tennis match, this is what happens. And Hamas has no such concerns, to them dead babies are a bonus.
     
  23. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    which is why Israel has killed more babies than Hamas? hamas is far more concerned with the civilian deaths it causes than Israel. to my knowledge Hamas has never fired upon anyone solidly protected by the geneva conventions sadly Israel can not say the same.




    and it was Israel choice to be enemies when it as the zionist movement chose to invade and conqueror palestine.
     

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