Syrian Poison Gas Conspiracy

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  1. AUSSIEABORIGINAL Abnormally original Registered Senior Member

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    from WND.com story by Jerome Corsi
    Evidence: Syria gas attack work of U.S. allies
    http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/video-shows-rebels-launching-gas-attack-in-syria/

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    As the conspiracy is now developing, it would appear that the world-wide terrorist group known as Al Qaeda was responsible for the sarin gas attack in Syria that killed hundreds of men, women, and children.

    While this may or may not seem to be a conspiracy theory, the leaders of the USA, Great Britain, and France have been on the verge of attacking the Syrian Government based on their claims that there is absolute proof that Syrian Government is responsible, not the "syrian rebels" (Al Qaeda).

    The photo above (along with other photos on the WND.com web page) seems to show members of Al Qaeda loading a poison gas cannister onto an artillary piece about to be launched. I have also been hearing that Al Qaeda even has it's own YouTube channels showing their murderous exploits using sarin gas.

    From some of the sites that I have been reading, it would seem that much of this has to do with ownership of natural gas pipelines across the middle east and the super powers fighting over them.

    I came across this video a couple of months ago (on the Snowden case), but the maker ("StormCloudsGathering") tells about the events that we are now seeing in regards the Al Qaeda having poison gas. I recommend you watch it first:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PxEuYUUMJI
    Published on Jun 25, 2013


    The really interesting part of this conspiracy (to me) is that the worldwide terrorist group, Al Qaeda, seems to have been created, trained, and deployed by the C.I.A. (U.S. government) all over the world to commit terrorist acts. This is the very same Al Qaeda that is supposed to be the cause of citizens all across the United States to undergo NSA domestic spying, electronic strip searches, militarization of our civillian police forces, loss of our freedoms, and on, and on, and on . . .

    If this is true, then it seems reasonable to assume that the entire "War On Terror" is a complete farce!



    These are some of the articles that I have been researching (any help on this story from fellow Sciforums Conspiracy Trackers would be greatly appreciated):

    • The Geopolitics of Gas and the Syrian Crisis: Syrian “Opposition” Armed to Thwart Construction of Iran-Iraq-Syria Gas Pipeline
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ge...ction-of-iran-iraq-syria-gas-pipeline/5337452

    • The Geopolitics of Gas and the Syrian Crisis (alternate site)
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/05/31/the-geopolitics-of-gas-and-the-syrian-crisis.html

    • Will Israel’s Gas Hopes Come True? Accused of Stealing Gas from the Gaza Strip
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/will-i...d-of-stealing-gas-from-the-gaza-strip/5341688

    • Mediterranean: Winds of Change (I)
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/04/20/mediterranean-winds-of-change-i.html

    • Mediterranean: Winds of Change (II)
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/04/21/mediterranean-winds-of-change-ii.html

    • Déjà vu and Syrian Chemical Weapons
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/08/26/deja-vu-and-syrian-chemical-weapons.html

    • The Overt and Covert Mechanisms of the Chemical Provocation in Syria
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...rt-mechanisms-chemical-provocation-syria.html

    • War as Way to Cover Evidence that West Used Chemical Weapons
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...evidence-that-west-used-chemical-weapons.html

    • Syria: West Weighing Options
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/08/30/syria-west-weighing-options.html

    • The Abdication of the Emir of Qatar Due to the Collapse of Anti-Syrian Forces
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...ir-qatar-due-collapse-anti-syrian-forces.html

    • Will Israel’s Gas Hopes Come True?
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/07/04/will-israel-gas-hopes-come-true.html

    • Syria Will not See Peace during Ramadan
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/07/12/syria-will-not-see-peace-during-ramadan.html

    • Kurds – Factor to Tilt Balance in Syrian Conflict
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...actor-to-tilt-balance-in-syrian-conflict.html

    • A New War within a War in Syria
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/07/29/a-new-war-within-a-war-in-syria.html

    • White House Courts Al-Qaeda from Kabul to Damascus. 9/11 Becomes Thing of the Past
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...damascus.-9-11-becomes-thing-of-the-past.html

    • Egypt: Takeover Short of Military Coup
    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/07/07/egypt-takeover-short-of-military-coup.html

    Thanks!
     
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  3. Grumpy Curmudgeon of Lucidity Valued Senior Member

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    PTBarnum was right, but we're down to about 30 seconds now.

    There are no good guys on either side in Syria(despite all the innocents caught in between), they've yet to get this civilization thing and are mucking along with 12th century public morals. I blame Islam+dictatorship, but only to the same extent that Christianity+the tyranny of the masses(sometimes called democracy)was responsible for the Holocaust or Slavery. Don't misunderstand, I would cheer to learn that a rocket powered dildo had entered Assad's bony...er, fundament at slightly more than Mach 2, but such surgical precision is beyond us, for now. But the rebels are not and would never be a better choice in any way. An attack is coming, but we should be snipers and target the means of delivery while staying out of it otherwise. If Assad sticks his head up again and threatens anyone outside his borders, we should slit his scrawny neck for him. Maybe after the two sides make all the rubble bounce the world can construct a new country on the ruins, a Homeland for Palestinians, maybe? Other than containing the conflict to Syria and controlling the crazy we should steer clear, nothing we can do will improve the situation until the killing is over, one way or another. If you are in Syria, leave, the cancer has metastasized, the patient is going to die. Cambodia was similar in many ways. Another case of the principles we espouse and aspire to meeting with the reality within which we live and falling apart. The world says "Do Something", but what action that we could take would make either side sane? The saddest thing is that it is all of their own construction, the Syrians are responsible for most of the conflict in the area since 1948, they were allies of Germany in WW2 before that. Syria has a long history of thuggery, brutality and aggression. It could be argued that the Middle East would be better off if it ceased to exist.

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  5. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    If the terrorist opposition is responsible for the WND attacks as you claim, why is it none of Assad's troops were affected by the gas? Probably because they were issued gas masks before the attack. One of the reasons militaries stopped using gas in WWI was because when they gassed the enemy, they also gassed themselves.
     
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  7. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    I remember when we went into Iraq during the war there and found no weapons of mass destruction including gas of any kind. Strange isn't it that that is the same thing that we are being told now about. I'm just fed up with all this nonsense and hope we don't start anoher war that will cost trillions of more dollars.
     
  8. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    When we went into Iraq we didn't have 1,400+ dead bodies as proof.
     
  9. Balerion Banned Banned

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    I'm with you on this one. I see no point in helping out a rebel group that's just going to turn around and help terrorists trying to kill westerners. I also know that the US has no moral authority on this issue, despite the entire world waiting on our response. Just let them sort it out, and hope that "sorting it out" amounts to a localized extinction event.
     
  10. river

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    The truth , the truth , the truth

    Its so eroded , covered up , manipulated , that we no longer know who believe

    What are we doing to ourselves ?

    Politics … it just pisses me off , truth and integrity is completely destroyed
     
  11. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    However we still do mot know who used the gas or what kind it was.
     
  12. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    Using terrorists like Al Quida instead of Black Water troops does exactly that.
     
  13. river

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    We will never know and that is the problem

    Not that the truth is not there , its just .........
     
  14. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Who else in the region has WMD weapons? How can the Syrian opposition use weapons they don't have? So are you telling me al-Qaeda has WMD? That is a pretty big claim. Where did they get them and where is your proof? Maybe Martians are abducting humans every day too.
     
  15. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Specious. Why would they hit Assad's troops? Loyal civilian populations would be a better target - damaging Assad's popular support - or else rebel populations, to generate international outrage against Assad, on whom the attack would be blamed.

    The really important questions - and which ought to be relatively simple to answer are: who are the guys around the photo? When was it taken? Is that really a chemical warhead? Did they actually fire it? Get that, and there's the answer to whether or not it was the jihadists themselves.
     
  16. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    So those 400+ dead kids were Assad troops? LOL You are indeed amazing.

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    The opposition cannot use weapons they don't have.

    I will tell you what is specious, specious is accepting without question as you have done material from dubious websites that are known (at best) for their specious reporting…you know making stuff up. Citing a site that publishes material from such renowned scholars as Rush Limbaugh who according to his mother flunked everything in college, yeah now that is a real credible source.
     
  17. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    Joe, poison gas can be bought by those in the "know" as was demonstrated in the gas attacks in the Japanese subway a few years ago if you recall as well as other "attacks in other cities. We all know that Al Qaeda's mentality includes using human shields as deterenta and noiw they could be using the gas in the same manner, to get America involved to help them win their war.

    Again I stated IF they were the ones using the gas , the point being there's no way to confirm it even with children dead because they just are being used again to help Al Qaeda's army of terrorists. If they win this war what do you think will be the results when they take over? They already hate the West and they want to kill Americans or anyone that doesn't go along with them.
     
  18. Grumpy Curmudgeon of Lucidity Valued Senior Member

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    Buddha12
    Actually, it was the poor quality of their home-made Sarin that limited the casualties in Japan. Real Sarin gas(like Assad used)would have left nothing but dead people in any subway station.

    The intelligence services of three different countries(not just the US)intercepted communications between Assad's commanders that leave no doubt, we even have satellite recon of exactly which gas companies and missile companies were used,. We know it was Assad. The only gas the rebels could have would be home-made or stolen, Assad has factories.

    No improvement. Both sides suck. But should we have ignored Hitler in the thirties(as many prominent Americans wanted to do)simply because he was killing communists(another failed paradigm)? Hitler got as far as he did because at no step in his rise did anyone say no to his atrocities, even in the beginning when it would have been easy to stop his bullying. And about a century ago the whole world decided that gas was entirely outside of acceptable weapons, those who forget that are doomed to relearn why that happened. Swat this asshole now and maybe we'll make another 100 years before we need do this once more. Saddam Hussein should have been swatted sooner for his use against Iran, maybe we wouldn't be having to deal with it now if he had. But he was "our" dictator at the time, the Republicans did nothing, then(it's becoming a habit with them, they did nothing in the last Congress but lie, obstruct, impede and demonize).

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  19. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    So then WHERE THE FUCK IS THE UNITED NATIONS IF THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG????????? Why does America always have to become involved everywhere and lose its citizens trying to keep the peace and even when America does help the situation turns out bad whenever they leave.
     
  20. Balerion Banned Banned

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    And out comes trollpistole...
     
  21. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Sorry, I have to disagree with this. While I'm not against killing inhumane dictators, I am against butting in on conflicts between two parties that have no love for us. And the Hitler analogy is flat-out ridiculous; leaving Assad be won't result in the rise of a fourth Reich. You're closer to the mark when comparing him to Hussein.
     
  22. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    ... are you retarded? No, seriously. Let you what: you try and wrassle out what you think my comment above meant, and I'll correct your suppositions for you, no charge.

    You usually do.

    Er... I don't see a link from any website, dubious or otherwise, in my post. Did you mean to address the OP? You should say that, then.

    That being said, with the Obama administration's officials not being sure where the attack came from, the Islamist rebels would be the obvious 'other party'. Sure, there might be more, of course.
     
  23. Grumpy Curmudgeon of Lucidity Valued Senior Member

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    Balerion

    As am I, but the use of poison gas and nuclear weapons are the whole world's problem. If Assad is willing to gas his own people in the death throws of his regime he would hardly hesitate to use it on Isreal in an effort to intimidate or take them down with him. He is a mad dog that is not just a problem for the owner, but for the whole neighborhood.

    The point is that, as with Assad, Hitler didn't start with big atrocities, he built up to those with many tentative, exploratory ones, starting with killing communists because no one liked communists. Each time the atrocity was allowed to go unanswered he got worse. Like Assad has done. It's really only human nature, bullies will escalate if not corrected or killed.

    Buddha12

    Russia has a veto on the UN Security Counsel, they support Assad. Putin, himself is a venal, psychotic dictator, no better than Assad.

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