suicide

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by BigHead, Apr 4, 2011.

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can anyone anywhere benifit by your being alive? a posative word? a helping hand?

  1. yes

    20 vote(s)
    74.1%
  2. no

    2 vote(s)
    7.4%
  3. maybe

    2 vote(s)
    7.4%
  4. I dont care about anyone but myself

    3 vote(s)
    11.1%
  1. BigHead Registered Member

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    Suicide, None from the beginning to the end have escaped death. so all of you who contemplate ending your life prematurely I assure you there will be a time to die. who knows what tomorrow brings, it may bring an amazing change where your life improves or your life contributes to another in a major way. you may be needed in some way. or some small thing may change your own life, but take yourself out of the equation and you will never know. you may only bring your loved ones pain just short of glory, there is always a time to die. so for now, live.
     
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  3. brokenpower Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you Dr. Phil.... I'm sorry, did you have a point you wanted to discuss?
     
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  5. brokenpower Registered Senior Member

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    Also, there is no "a" in "Positive"
     
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  7. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    the poll itself is a point all on it's own. typically the poll, the results, and the comments people make to explain their answer to the poll, is the point of any thread that begins with a poll. what was your answer to the poll?

    i also think his comments are relevant. people talk about and/or contemplate suicide on this forum every so often. a member just posted a goodbye a few days ago. my own brother's depressed and talking about it right now.

    and if i apply his comments to the poll, i think he's suggesting that if someone kills themselves, their being selfish and/or short-sighted.
     
  8. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Yeah Bighead, I _could_ teach you how to spell, and correctly construct, capitalise and punctuate sentences. So I could be of benefit to you.
     
  9. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    why does everybody gotta be a dick?

    there...that's my poll.
     
  10. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Again Lori, when you think everybody else is being a dick, maybe it's your perspective that's skewed,....
     
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  11. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    oh ok. well then i mean you, specifically. what's your answer?
     
  12. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Because not everyones a pussy!

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  13. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    apparently there's nothing to fear as long as you're a good speller.
     
  14. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Who said I was a dick? Oh, just you, so the answer is, your perspective is skewed.
     
  15. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Missing the point,... we don't need to be preached at by a guy that can't be bothered to write his posts correctly. We don't need to be questioned if we have anything to give, by a guy that can't work a shift key.

    It would perhaps be better for this guy to get the basics down, before getting preachy with his philosophy.
     
  16. brokenpower Registered Senior Member

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    The poll itself poses three questions, and doesn't merit further conversation.
     
  17. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    What does anyone's spelling have to with anything? Everybody that posts to this forum has access to a spell checker and is just being lazy when they don't use it.

    When it comes to suicide, I will admit that in many cases a little time can work wonders. But there are many people that are forced to live beyond any hope of ever improving the quality of their life. When more than one doctor tells you your going to spend the next year in bed, in a great deal of pain always needing someone to handle your waste and it will cost your family $300,000.00. You want to die and the courts say no. Hell they treat animals better than that.
     
  18. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    He is kind of being dickish, but mostly he's being a...

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    My spellcheck doesn't always seem to work. Why, I don't know.

    Ok, I'll ask the question: is suicide selfish?

    Because from the perspective of the suicidal person, they don't believe they have any worth to others...admittedly probably not a sane perspective, but it's the one that inspires the act.
     
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  19. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, good point. But I hate blanket laws that benefit some but discriminate against others in a very nasty way. A better system should be put into place. No one should be forced to suffer a life that's never going to bet any better and no one should be allowed to take their life in a short moment of despair. Good laws can and should be made to take into account different circumstances. So what is it that is preventing this from happening? Religious extremest maybe?
     
  20. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I'd think that good medical help along with good friends that are there to help when a moment of crisis happens are always good things that will be available IF they want to use them. Many people however seek the final solution without first trying to get help by just asking for it. To many people dis needlessly because they either can't ask or don't know how to ask or perhaps they are afraid to ask because they think they are a "burden" to others when in reality they are not. There are people available 24 hours a day to help anyone who just reaches out their hand for help.
     
  21. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Are they?
    If you've decided you want out is killing yourself really all that difficult?

    See above.
    If someone has decided to do so in a short moment of despair how are you going to prevent this?
     
  22. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    By letting everyone know that there's help available 24/7 at most hospitals. Then there's their friends and family as well they can talk to. But as always there's going to be those who really do not want to be helped and there's nothing that anyone can do about them. As a friend you should be on the lookout for any serious change in your friends to ask them if they are OK. The family should be on the lookout as well. But you can't help all of the people all of the time and there will be those who will kill themselves unfortunately.
     
  23. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    How do you plan to stop them? :bugeye:
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