Stun guns and cops.

have any links to the actual cases?

 

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ever hear of a dash camera sam?
why don't you give links to the officers that are killid for the simple act of pulling someone over, hmmm?

typical scenario:
perp: i'm gonna break the law
cop: surrender
perp: fuck you asshole
cop: surrender
perp: make me
cop: okay
perp sues cause he's a fucking prick and knows a crooked lawyer.

 

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No, they don't use tazers, but they physically wrestle them down, then inject them with powerful, quick sedatives. Ain't much difference that I can see ....both calm them down pretty damned quickly.

Baron Max

 

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sometimes they are tied down, it depends how out of it they are.
you're correct that they are injected with sedatives.

edit
how much experiance have you got with cops sam?

 

Aren't they trained to deal with this sort of a thing?

Does knowing that a cop will use a taser make a criminal/mentally ill person more or less belligerent?

Are there any guidelines about the circumstances under which tasers should be used?

Should anyone of any age or medical condition be tasered if considered belligerent? How do cops distinguish between someone who is mentally ill, belligerent or just angry at being unfairly treated? Are tasers the first line of defence or a last resort?

What happens when a person dies after being tasered? What are the consequences to the cop?

How many times can a cop taser a person he considers belligerent? Once twice or more times?

 

Anyone ever died after being wrestled to the ground and sedated?

I'd say thats a major difference.

 

How much do you?

 

Are you a cop?

 

Actually, this happened to a friend of mine with schizophrenia. He was shouting crap in the streets and the neighbors called the cops. They came, and he freaked out. The police ended up pepper spraying him and tasering him, and wrestled him to the ground. It didn't end up too badly, but a similar thing happened in Portland recently and the guy died (probably due to a large cop falling on him).

My view is that the cops can't be psychologists, they do their best to look out for the public, and tasers are an effective tool. Without them, they would end up using deadly force more often.

 

Yes, Sam, there have been some that have died in that way - and some right there in the ER! Are you going to now rail against doctors and injections of sedatives??? ...LOL!

Baron Max

 

Links? Evidence?

 

So the excellent crime rates of the United States are a reflection of the effective methods used by the cops to combat crime?

And that is why the average American has such a lot of confidence in the cops?

 

I don't need it, I already know it. If you want it and don't trust me, then go find it yourself!

Besides, even if I posted a link or evidence, you'd just claim that it was fake or false or erroneous or wrong or incorrect or..... So what the hell ...check it out yourself.

Baron Max

 

yes cops are highly trained.

yes, knowing a cop will taser your ass will make most people think twice.

yes.

really sam a cop will not ask you if you have any medical conditions that will prohibit the use of tasers.
you'd love it if that was the case though wouldn't you.

anybody that is ranting and raving IS mentally ill.

tasers are neither the first or last line of defense.
verbal commands are the first.
being shot to death is the last.

the cop has to spend an ungodly amount of time in lawsuits justifying his use of the taser when his time could be better spent taking the trash of the streets.

in most cases none, he might be reassigned to another department.

as many times as needed.

quite a bit sam, now aswer my question.

 

Well well well what do you know?

The Baron is actually right for once!

Interesting society we have, isn't it?

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http://internalmedicine.osu.edu/pulmonary/6442.cfm

 

sam
provide links to ANY case of death caused soley by a taser.

 

So in effect there are no consequences to cops who may use tasers indiscriminately?

What are the guidelines for using a taser?

And I have known cops though not in the US.

 

Crime rates are not solely a reflection on the effectiveness of cops. There are systemic reasons for crime as well.

 

this statement alone proves you have no idea what you are talking about sam.
where's the links to the cases i asked for?
provide links to the cases where cops used tasers "indiscriminately".

 

How would you define solely?

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/26/341/32835