It seem like the Religion forum is dominated by Monotheisms vs. Athiesm. If you follow the Eastern Religions there is another forum. Thought I'd weigh in for a more nature based pantheism. When I use the word God I do not think of a transcendant being - let alone some bearded guy. I am considering everything God. For me it is easiest to connect to God in nature. Odd that that should be a specific word, used to be everywhere. But by nature I mean places on the earth that have not been rigidified and radically simplified by humans. Where living forms have diversity and are relatively healthy, myself included. I experience a world filled with more beings than are currently acknowledged by scientists, many of which are not corporeal in the same way we are. I feel a presence in nature that is intelligent. Sometimes this can be for want of better word the spirit of a certain place, say an island or a certain patch of forest, sometimes it feel like the earth herself. I am deeply saddened by the attitudes of both the monotheists and the athiests (rationalists) when it comes to nature. both tend to view nature in utilitarian terms, neither granting it anything like sentience. Both groups tend to view pagans (I'll use that term today) as a problem. Athiests see them as silly and 'irrational' and monothiests have seen them as heretics, barbarians, sinners or of no consequence - lacking human status. Heretics would be Christians who 'regressed' to practices not based on those strange monotheistic books that everyone likes to argue about. Jesus, can't the monotheists see those books are flawed. Any God that made a coral reef could have come up with better books even on the day of rest. both groups have dulled the senses. They each believe in only a very small spectrum of possible causes and effects. Most rationalists still see the world in Newtonian terms and have not been humbled at all by the strange occurances in QM. But anyway. here's a plup for ignoring the options of Athiesm vs. Monotheism. It's like that you have to be either Republican or Democrat, or capitalist or communist. Or you wear Nike rather than Puma is more like it these days. I guess with much sorrow, if I were forced to choose I'd take the animal as opposed to an old pagan but colonialist god. Wait a minute. My choices are not limited by the loudest voices.