Star Trek - did you know?

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Yeah, but civilians are finally just now catching up to the governments secret projects. We already have optical camouflage which is paving the way for cloaked technology.

http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/oc.html

Due to the earth's increased rotation and magnetic imbalance of the poles, time is speeding up so actually those 50 years you talk about is gonna happen on 2012, the end of the Mayan calander, because in the years that leads up to 2012 since 1966, time will have increased by 4 years.

Also Star Trek was just a launching platform to get us ready for our technological advancements. Battlestar Galactica is getting us ready for what the future holds once we do colonize space. With global warming and all, we're gonna have to flee this planet but global warming won't be the only thing we'll have to worry about then. All our current research on unmanned drones, tanks, and planes are what leads to the Cylons of Battlestar Galactica. We'll see how it all turns out.

Heh.

Heh.

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- N

 

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So let me get this straight, the US government knew in 1966 that we Brits would come up with A) a "tractor beam" that

and B) a "cloaking device" that

in 2006 and then started running Star Trek to desensitise the world?
Insidious conniving little buggers aren't they?

Does that mean we get an extra birthday party in some of the years between now and then?

 

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The governments already had the tractor beam and cloaking device in 1966.

I already said what we know about science is actually 50yrs behind what is told to us. Take the fax machine, that was invented decades before we ever knew about it.

"The fax machine was invented in 1842 by Alexander Bain, who used clock mechanisms to transfer an image from one sheet of electrically conductive paper to another."

So if we are min 50yrs behind, meaning they are preparing us slowly to bring us up to date with their real advances in technology. Softly softly

 

Really? Can you prove it?
If they had cloaking devices why go to all the hideous expense of developing stealth aircraft?

 

same reason they hid the existance of the fax machine..it's always been the way.

"Firsts in Fax Machine History

In 1902, Dr Arthur Korn invented an improved and practical fax, the photoelectric system.
In 1914, Edouard Belin established the concept for remote fax photo/news reporting.
The American Telephone & Telegraph Company (AT&T) worked to improve telephone facsimile technology, and in 1924, the telephotography machine was used to send political convention photos long distance for newspaper publication.
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But they knew that we'd have to catch up with space technology hence the easiest form of desensitisation. The science site even uses star trek as its reference point. Without star trek this would seem like magic to us. Whereas now it's just 'how cool is that' and back to playing pc games.

 

In other words you can't prove it. The government has therefore spent billions on developing aircraft they didn't actually need to keep secret something we didn't know about anyway... That's good thinking.
There was NOTHING in Star Trek that was unknown to regular science fiction fans since maybe the thirties when pulp fiction books took off.
What would be the point of keeping fax machines secret? They have world-threatening properties? If I press the correct sequence of keys do I become master of the universe?
Without Star Trek we wouldn't think it was magic anymore than any other innovation. Or did you consider video and DVD to be magical when you first heard of them? Or colour TV (or then again you may not be that old...).
Live long enough with your eyes open and the world fills up every year with some new thing that, according to you, we would regard as magic without Star Trek. What about people who've never watched it? Or the people that developed those technologies?

 

It sounds like someone doesn't keep up with SCIENCE.

- N

 

"The Ship's Computer:
Most of the things it does are within the plausible realm of artificial inteligence tht computer scientists anticipate. We have auto-pilot functions and navigational systems today, and these are the most used functions of the Enterprise computer. Our computers even approach the ability to interpret spoken orders that the Enterprise compter has. In 400 more years -- the time when Star Trek: The Next Generation is set -- it is reasonable to expect many of the abilities of this computer to really be achieved.


Matter-Antimatter Power Generation:
This is one of the best scientifc features of Star Trek. The mixing of matter and antimatter is almost certainly the most eficient kind of power source that a starship could use, and the way it's described is reasonably correct -- the antimater (frozen anti-hydrogen) is handled with magneti c fields, and never allowed to touch normal matter, or KA-BOM! This much is real physics.
Impulse Engines:
These are rocket engines based on the fusion reaction. We don't have the technology for them yet, but they are within the bounds of real, possible future engineering.

Introduction Features List

Androids:
Well, an important research organization for robotics is the American Association for Artificil Intelligence. At a recent conference on cybernetics, the president of the Association was asked what is the ultimate goal of his field of technology. He repled, "Lieutenant Comander Data." Creating Star Trek's Mr. Data would be a historic feat of cybernetics, and right now it's very controversial in computer science whether it can be done. Maybe a self-aware computer can be put into a human-sized body and convinced to live sociably with us and our limitations. That's a log way ahead of our computer technology, but maybe not impossible.


Alien Beings:
Most scientists now agree that life probably exists in other solar systems, now that we understand biochemistry a little. The cheical elements for carbon-based life like the lifeforms on Earth are common in the Universe, so maybe lifeforms like ourselves are numerous in the Galaxy. W can imagine all kinds of intelligent creatures, with any number of arms, legs, eyes, or antennae -- maybe a lot smarter than we are.

Sensors & Tricorders:
We have vibration sensors, sonar, radar, laser ranging, various kinds of light wavelength detectors and energetic particle detectors, and gravimeters. We also do a little three-diensional imaging of the interiors of solid objects, like the human body, with magnetic fields and radioctivity detectors. The sensors and tricorders on Star Trek are qite different and more revealing as plot devices than anything we have. But with a strtch of the imagination, the tricorder scan could have today's magnetic resonance imager as its ancestor. The Enterprise's sensors must use the more advanced (and imaginary) "subspace fields," when it detects far-away objects in space, because the crew never has to wait for signals to travel to a target and return.

Deflector Shields, Tractor Beams & Artificial Gravity:
We know how to deflect electrically charged objects using electromgnetic fields, and there are concepts for protecting space travelers from cosmic radiation this way. That's the ony phys ics trick we know that resembles the powerful special effects of the Enterprise shields. We can also make big magnets that have some respectable attrction, and with the right electronic circuits regulating the strength of the magnets, we can imagine towing some kinds of metal objects through space. A beam that is projected at something to attract it is purely imaginary. We don't have any way to create artificial gravity either. Generating artificial gravitn particles is imaginable, but there's no way to say how it might be done.


Subspace Communications:
Mathematicians discovered the concept of a subspace within a space continuum decades ago, and science fiction writers appropriated the term to serve their needs for a super-advanced way to reach other points in space, time or "other"univrses. The concept is alive in physics today, in theories that our space-time may have eleven or more dimensions -- thre space dimensions and time plus seven more that are "curled up" within a tiny sub-atomic size scale, where they conveniently explain mysteries of the forces of physics. But Star Trek uses its own unrelated version of subspace, with signals that can travel as fast as the fastest starship.
Introduction Features List

Phasers:
According to the Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual, phasers are named for PHASed Energy Rectification. They are really just spectacular energy blasters, with no detailed physics explnation. The original concept was that they were the next technological improvement upon LASERs.


The Star Trek series are the only sciene fiction series crafed with such respect for real science and intelligent writing."

The list goes on...........

 

Don't forget that when George Lucas was first begining to film Star Wars, the government contacted him and had him change the design of some of his space craft because it resembeled top secret aircraft the government was currently working on.

Television tells all.

- N

 

True true!

 

Hey, don't forget to tell him what Uncle 'Bert told you when you were a little girl..

- N

 

what do you know about my G Uncle Bert? Better not tell ! I will pm you for details. Please do not discuss further on this board!

 

But it's just soooooo coooooool...

Wanna see my imitation of him?

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- N

 

Look up SPERRY sometime on Google - they made autopilot systems in WWII.
As for the rest of it, yeah, stock SF background fillers but:

And according to Gene Roddenbury he used the word phaser because he thought lasers would be "old hat" in the time period he was thinking of and he'd the term "phasing" from an electrical engineer and co-opted the word...

Star Trek has demonstrated little or no respect for science or the tenets of science if it doesn't fit with the story line. They readily and happily subvert words, terms, concepts and meanings to tell the story they want to tell.
Any one who writes (or allows on set) the phrase "the power output is rising symptomatically" has sod all to do with science. I'm still wondering if there was a "synmptomatically of something" clause omitted or they meant asymptotically (should have been exponentially maybe).
Star Trek has about as much science in as The X Files...

 

zip it! Please

 

I would like to see some proof of that accusation. Or are you just another one of those government-sponsored disinformation agents?

Hmph!

- N

 

Star trek is NOT meant to be a true representation of the future? NOT AT ALL, its merely an introduction to the scientific advances, so anything on top of that is fiction.

Meanwhile re the shows respect of science, NASA seems to approve.

 

Star Trek is like the Bible. Lots of truth mixed into a story to make it all easier to believe because truth is stranger than fiction. If we only knew the true happenings, we'd be befuddled.

- N

 

And the government is a branch of the Illuminati... yeah right. (Or the other way round, I can never keep track of these hyper-secret societies).