Spritual Terms defined?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by KUMAR5, Dec 9, 2017.

  1. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Really? How do you establish that?
    This isn't a scientific proposition.
    (What "right" do prey animals have to life if their predator also has that same "right" for example?)

    You persist in saying this, yet consistently fail to show any logic or science to your claims.

    Nope.
     
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  3. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Whether prey animals are created by nature just for a sole or inentional purpose of food to their predators?
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    What?
    Nature doesn't "create things for a purpose", and you haven't addressed my actual question.
    Predators kill prey animals. If they don't they die.
    Which then, according to your view of nature (i.e. "All live beings have natural right to life"), is "wrong"?
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    OK, let's take just two examples; the first two.

    Prime Goddess: Anticipated Prime Force(Unified Forces) i.e. basis of all 4 fundamental forces.
    Prime God: Anticipated prime particle of all 4 elementary particles. If manifested by Prime Force?

    By what scientific logic do you equate a 'prime goddess' with 4 fun forces?
    By what scientific logic do you equate a 'prime gods' with 4 elementary particles?
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I am pretty sure rabbits, antelope and insects would disagree with your assessment of their sole purpose.
    I am pretty sure they believe that they too have "a natural right to life".
     
  9. Michael 345 Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who died Valued Senior Member

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    From the original post

    Most are non existent from the atheist point of view

    The rest are value judgements from any persons point of view and hence subjective

    Insomuch as some points of view become generally accepted as a norm it may gain the status of law

    Since laws do not cover all situations, and some situations may straddle more than one law and be disputed as to which law has a higher or better standard we have lawyers who will fight out the merits

    If somebody is looking for a fixed absolute law standard, fixed value system or a fixed defining system you won't find any sorry

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  10. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    They have natural right to live, other can have natural need to kill. It does not make either odd. It also contribute to maintain nature's balance.
    "Live & let live" is said. It suggests let live subject to live.
     
  11. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    We can try discussing each term....whether they are defined absolutely, specifically or wrongly.
     
  12. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    I mentioned anticipated. It means, yet pending to know in science but logically there may be a mother or a father of all. Moreover, Unified Force is under check in science and if could be known its mediating particle should be taken as prime particle/God.
     
  13. Michael 345 Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who died Valued Senior Member

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    No no no. No organisms have any NATURAL RIGHTS OR ANYTHING ELSE NATURAL
    RIGHT TO LIVE
    RIGHT TO BE BIG
    RIGHT TO BE GREEN

    ANOTHER FALSEHOOD
    THERE IS NO BALANCE IN NATURE TO MAINTAIN

    No we cannot. You appear not to understand the concept that ANY term can be defined in any way whatsoever. NONE of the definitions, in your words can ever be, absolutely, specifically or wrongly

    Any such discussion would be pointless to start

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  14. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Ok. Try to think deeply with equanimity not with specificity.
     
  15. Michael 345 Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who died Valued Senior Member

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    From pseudoscience thread my post

    KUMAR5 <<<<<------ me thinks from responses ----->>>>>> bot

    No emotion - responses have mechanical feel

    I think ditto here

    The words are spelt correctly, questionable grammar (bot or someone with this as 10th language)

    Example quote

    Ok. Try to think deeply with equanimity not with specificity.

    Really????

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  16. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry.???
     
  17. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    But it negates your earlier claim that "All live beings have naural right to life, grow...".
    One of them has to die for the other to survive.

    That doesn't support a "right" to live.
     
  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Dont you worry KUMAR5
    The guys are just testing you to see if you can handle a bit of heat.
    But they are successfully side tracking you.
    So what can you tell me about the first point outlined in your OP.
    I think actually you need to expand on all points to some degree and almost certainly define each and every term you refer to ...
    Clearly before we can reduce anything to observable aspects the aspect of defining all terms you use is absolutely necessary.
    Does that sound a reasonable approach to you.
    Alex
     
  19. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    That does not nagate e natural right to live.. We have right to live.. If someone kill us, it does not mean we didn't had right to live..
     
  20. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Welcome. Btw, are all term I defined, not already explained in quite simple language? These need to be carefully understood with dedication.
     
  21. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    I've got a feeling you're not going to be allowed to get your point across here.

    Using 'god' and 'goddess' to explain stuff, is like the old fashioned idea of showing a cross to a vampire.

    Jan.
     
  22. Michael 345 Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who died Valued Senior Member

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    Hi bot

    What's your view then on the unalienable rights which are granted and mentioned in the Declaration of Independence?

    Unalienable refers to that which cannot be given away or taken away right?

    Yet it happens all the time

    Your move

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  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I'll take my cue from you. I'll be logical and scientific.

    By what scientific logic do you posit a 'prime goddess'?
    By what scientific logic do you posit a 'prime gods'?
     

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