Spiritual Evolution

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by TruthSeeker, Apr 9, 2002.

  1. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

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    High ho! It's off to battle we go ...

    Xev

    There is a difference between 'can't' and 'don't care to'.

    Extra, extra nice with sugar and spice?

    "Humans who, through the wonders of science and technolgy, now kill each
    other by the millions without guilt or fear of retribution in an afterlife.
    "

    In my world, humans kill humans for the hell of it, for the fun of it?
    Who knows, certainly not I ... I haven't been psychoanalyzed.

    And, I didn't say it was 'necessary' ... Please don't put words in my
    mouth (or anything else, for that matter).

    "Seemed implied ... " Gosh, you have a fertile imagination. Are you as
    fertile in other areas?

    Athiests, until recently, have been too busy hiding to organize. But I
    have no doubt that athiests, on an individual basis, have killed.

    Because it detracted from worshiping the State. Hell, you answered
    that yourself by semi-plagerizing Cris's earlier post.

    No, he had them rounded up and slain ... along with gypsies, queers,
    mentally defectives, etc. Aren't you lucky not to have been in the wrong
    place at the wrong time?

    Nice? No doubt. By the way did they remove all the blood stains before
    returning your repaired cat-o'-nine-tails?

    Cris

    You made me blush. Keep sucking up to me like that and I just may
    adopt you ... Incontinence isn't that far off for an old geezer like me.

    Take care, all

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  3. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    It is a game. I vas teasing youuu.

    Would be fitting, as you seem to have your head firmly shoved up your......right. Will be nice.

    Depends. You sound about old enough to make the question irrelevent....at least for you.

    I will be nice. I am being nice. I am in my happy place. I am in my happy place. I am in my happy place.

    Seems you have agreed with me on all my points, so, cheerie bye.
     
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  5. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Tyler

    You can't have it both ways.

    If you go around saying religon is bad and murdering the religes people then you ARE killing in the name of athisam.

    If we are taling about motives then the catolic churches killings wern't about religon EITHER.

    one way or the other
     
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  7. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    No. You are killing in the name of athiesm if you say you are killing in the name of athiesm.

    The NKVD/OGPU/Soviet 'Police' killed in the name of Marxism-Leninism or in the name of the Party and State.

    They were at least partially about religion. Do you honestly think Giordano Bruno was killed for reasons of power?

    The reasons behind persecutions are complex, and there is no one answer. But the fact remains that few people have been killed in the name of athiesm, and millions have been killed in the name of God.
     
  8. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

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    Xev ...

    Interesting article. But I do feel that, besides being a pain-in-the-ass as
    far as the church was concerned by his espousing of Copernicus' heliocentric
    theory, he was a threat to the power of the church at a time when things
    were getting a bit shakey.

    Take care

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  9. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Thats my point

    as it said
    They killed him because they FEARED him NOT because of any reason they may have given
     
  10. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "If you go around saying religon is bad and murdering the religes people then you ARE killing in the name of athisam."

    Going around and killing people because they are a specific religion is not killing in the name of athieism.


    To kill in the name of atheism you would have to say something like; "we are going to kill everyone who is religious because we want them all to believe in no god."
     
  11. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    What? That's why you call me arrogant and other things...!!
    You think that is ok for someone to kill in the name of ignorance, proudness and egocentrism??
    What a mess...
     
  12. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    "You think that is ok for someone to kill in the name of ignorance, proudness and egocentrism??"

    Where did I say that?
     
  13. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    What?! Nelson, did I miss somthing?

    (Psst - It is only okay to kill in the name of getting rid of tailgating arseholes in SUVs

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  14. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Yes. Key the paint too.
     
  15. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Tyler,

    Well... it depends on your intentions...

    You said:
    Well, you actually almost do it... but you don't really kill, you just completly ignore... or attack...

    It's like if you were saying:
    "To attack in the name of atheism you would have to say something like; "we are going to attack everyone who is religious because we want them all to believe in no god."

    Love,
    Nelson
     
  16. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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  17. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Jan:
    Which leads to the question: When have people been killed in the name of athiesm?

    Nelson:

    So if I call Tony1 a stupid-head (neener neener), it's almost as bad as killing him?

    In the US, and Canada, and in all democratic countries, there is somthing called 'freedom of speech'.

    A: That's not happening. Just your swollen ego.
    B: We have the right to say whatever* we want to. DEAL!. We don't have the right to kill.

    * (except cry 'theatre!' in a crowded fire)
     
  18. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Actually Australia doesn't have that freedom of speech thing. Sucks, huh?
     
  19. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Adam:

    Indeed it does. Lord High Protector Ashcroft is whittling away at ours as we speak....

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    Oh well, at least I have the moral right to kill assholes who tailgate.
     
  20. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    Ashcroft?
     
  21. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Our attorney general, he of the prayer meetings, bad singing, paranoid fear of calico cats and vauge mutterings about internet porn.
     
  22. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    What happened to separation of church and state? I think anyone accepting a public office should have to publicly renounce any and all ties to ANY religious organisations and doctrines.

    But apart from that, this Ashcroft guy is friggin nuts. Calico cats are a sign of the devil? Prayer meetings in a government office? Covering "naughty" statues? How exactly did he get his job? Was it an answer to his prayers?
     
  23. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    That antiquated concept? Come on, in the War on Terror, we need all the help we can get. We need JEEEEEEZUS!

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    A bunch of Jews in Florida who accidentaly voted for an anti-Semitic candidate....Ashcroft actually lost his Senate seat to a DEAD MAN..

    If you have a strong stomach; http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A35555-2002Feb19
     

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