"Spinning the climate"

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by Andre, Jul 12, 2008.

  1. Andre Registered Senior Member

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    That's the title of this work of Vincent Gray

    http://www.tech-know.eu/uploads/Spinning_the_Climate.pdf

    and the concluding remarks:

     
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  3. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Andre, please! "severe economic damage is likely to be done by its influence... "
    Whether or not the climate will change one way or the other in the next fifty years (presumably you will be long gone) is but a side effect.
    The producers of Greenhouse gases ( I don't care if you believe they effect the climate or not) are the biggest polluters on the planet, be they methane producing( unbelievably inefficient protein producing) cow farmers or oil companies or dumbfuck westerners with a carbon footprint the size of Texas ( ooh! I need a really fuckin' big house and an even bigger fleet of cars) will not actually be hurting too much from any adverse effects of said climate change. No those poor fuckers will short the stock market and their shit will smell like a rose.

    Really Andre, the second para of your hero piece mocks the possibility that pesticides were in any way responsible for any environmental degradation ( in the sixties and seventies).
    This assertion is so juvenile, preposterous and utterly ridiculous that your hero and therefore you relinquish any credibility. Any! At all! Ever!

    Go home, take a good hard look at yourself and stop pretending you are remotely in tune.
    Andre, I'm sure you have been considered intelligent for most of your life. Right now, you are deluded, dysfunctional and dangerous.

    If you want to smoke cigars in the fireworks factory, great but you will not be the only one going down.

    Spare us your misguided rhetoric and work out for yourself that whatever mental capacity you were once the master of has now been shrivelled by a variety of factors, not least of which is probably your advanced age.

    What you advocate is like smoking yourself to a long and healthy life!
    You are fooling very few but sadly, poignantly, yourself.
     
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  5. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    It's attitudes like this that make you realize that many followers of the "human caused" global warming theory are motivated by politics and not science.
    It doesn't matter what scientific evidence you show to them that "human caused" global warming may be incorrect, they won't believe you, because they know that their theory is another way to attack the West.
     
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  7. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    No Cazzo, I'm in the West, albeit the pseudo-west.
    Yes Human caused global warming may be incorrect. I absolutely do not deny this, although I suspect otherwise.
    Denying that the producers of greenhouse gases have a substantial case to answer is moronic at best and akin to suicide bombers at worst is closer to the truth.
    Delude yourself, you'll feel better. I'm quite sure of that.
     
  8. Andre Registered Senior Member

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    Problem, Spud, is that there is abundant evidence that Vincent Gray is bluntly right.
     
  9. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Shit you've got me there.

    I clearly won't sway you but then you'll just die.
    And then the world might have an infinitessimally small chance.
    Go on, fuck off!
     
  10. Andre Registered Senior Member

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    Like I said before, the "human caused" global warming movement is like religious Inquisition movement of the Dark Ages. You can't show them the truth anymore than you could to the religious fanatics of the Dark Ages. And if you get in their way, they'll want you dead.
    It's scarey, if enough of these radical environmentalists get in high political positions if the world becomes "1 government", they might round up a few billion people for extermination to "save Mother Earth".
     
  12. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Oooh! freedom and prosperity.
    For fuck's sake Andre. Freedom to make a million at the expense of the less predisposed/advantaged/silver-spoon-gobbed.
    Prosperity( insert your own greed-filled definition here).

    Got anything real Andre. Anything intelligent, anything connected to reality?

    *Andre responds with lame rhetoric and pathetic presumptions of understanding*...go ahead Andre knock yourself out!
     
  13. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, close dickhead, the radical environmentalists will kill off cancerous practises , not people.
    You have not got a fucking clue have you?!
     
  14. Andre Registered Senior Member

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    How about intelligence I'd really like to highly recommend this superb article:

    http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~dmo2/Chesser Baker 06 Chernobyl.pdf

    The most important lesson:

    and from the conclusion:

    Emphasis mine.

    Compare that too:

    http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/DetroitNews.pdf

    We are about to learn what this liberty with the truth is going to cost us
     
  15. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Andre, you would probably be ashamed to realise, if only you had the potential to externalise your thinking, that you are coming across like an addicted religious zealot on a misguided mission.
    You can't help it but you would do well to realise the erroneous nature of your synapse-reduced logic.

    Forgive him folks, he was once a beacon of forward thinking and is now reduced to a barely glowing ember about to snuff himself on his last aspiration.
    Sad, sad, sad!
     
  16. Andre Registered Senior Member

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  17. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Andre.
    Offering up a book listed on Amazon which is selling below its break-even cost as some kind of evidence or argument is just shit.
    Honestly, in the last half hour you have just chopped off your own argument, your fingers and your credibility.
    What's next? your dick?
    Sorry to resort to gutter talk but you took it there.
    You have got absolutely nothing left.
    Fuck it! emasculate yourself.
    No-one will notice the difference.
     
  18. Andre Registered Senior Member

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    Let's see if this reaction is explainable.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

    Yes, no problem at all to explain that.

    Some may recognize that all the symtoms of groupthink are abundantly present in the global warming camp.
     
  19. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Andre, in an effort to clearly see things from your superior perspective, I did personal experiment and in a twenty-four hour period sucked up several cans of household grade pesticide, a few kilograms of vehicle exhaust(diesel, unleaded and otherwise), stood in the jetstream of not one but three 747's on takeoff, choofed down a 44 of DDT and hyperventilated on the putrescence of a herd of flatulent Fresians( talk about your bovine intervention!) and you know what?
    You're right!..I've never felt better!

    You've won me.
     
  20. Andre Registered Senior Member

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    Don't worry, it's only temporarely. The result of trying to shape things to what we want them to be, not taking things as they are. Climate for instance, let a real scientist explain (as in the one with a single agenda, the truth):

    http://www.weatherquestions.com/Roy-Spencer-on-global-warming.htm

    You cannot misuse reality for enforcing any policy, however nobel the intent. But thanks for helping demonstrating.
     
  21. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Forgive me for being a pedant but really, your credibility is shot.
    You either meant 'it's only temporary' or 'It's only temporarily...something' but you forgot to include the something.

    Yikes! What the fuck are you trying to peddle?
    Be a good lad and pedal off into the sunset.
    We'll play a nice tune and remember you well.
     
  22. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    How many times does somebody have to debunk your conclusions from that stupid graph ? You keep posting the thing on this forum, and it doesn't mean shit, and either somebody has to go through the whole argument again and show your potential victims where exactly you are playing footsie with the facts, or the simple repetition stands as a standard propaganda effort - shout loud, long, and simple enough, and you can sell any lie.

    Pah.
     
  23. Andre Registered Senior Member

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    How about Roy Spencers version then from my last link?

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    Could you please specify exactly where I lie?
     

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