Sniper killing

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    Would you consider a drone-strike to be murder?
    Or a tomahawk strike?
    What about a tank that fires at targets 2 miles away?
    A plane that drops a bomb?

    Each of them also involves the delivery of a projectile of some form or other at an enemy target, often with additional explosive power rather than relying on sheer kinetic force.

    If these are not to be considered murder, why would a sniper shot be any different?
    Because of the perceived personal involvement of the shooter?
    Because the target was unaware of the shot being fired?
     
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    Ryan Cleckner, a former U.S. Army Ranger sniper who served two tours of duty in Afghanistan and wrote the authoritative “Long Range Shooting Handbook,” called the feat an “incredible”
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    Private to sergeant
    "Sarg, I can't shoot women and children"
    Sergeant to private:
    "Sure you can, just don't lead 'em as much"

    War is a criminal enterprise
    Dead is dead no matter what label you put on it.
     
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  10. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I am aware of your analoge, all that is murdering, We obey orders, we try to do our best, What a tragedy?
    One side is enjoying and the other is crying.
     
  11. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    So did the Holocaust.
     
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    That's true of war in general, not just sniper work.
    Both sides are crying.
     
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    I did not mean to pick on the sniper ,nor on anybody in uniform.
    I just thought that if anybody wants eliminate some at large distance can do it by using a sniper scope.
     
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    Not "anybody".
     
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    Sorry to use such word for generalisation. It is great that in such large population it did not happen frequently
     
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    Sorry, you are right. There's a second criterion.

    It occurred between combatants in a war. Both sides were soldiers, in armies, combat-ready.

    The Holocaust was murder because it targeted unarmed, civilian non-combatants.
     
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    What would be called dropping nuclear bomb on civilian ?
     
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    I think that a sniper hitting a target 3,540 meters away is an amazing technical feat.

    The Canadian Army has a reputation in the US Army for the excellence of its snipers.
     
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    If you lose the war? A crime against humanity.
    If you win the war? The most humane way to end a terrible war.
     
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    So, is this all a sign to allied ground forces being a step closer in Syria and Iraq?
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I thought we were talking about snipers and terrorists in a combat zone.
    Has that question been satisfactory answered?
     
  22. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    I suspect, that with a sniper, it is more about the shot than about the target.
     
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    Nono, quite the opposite.
    It's a sign that they can step about a mile back.

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