Slavery worse than Holocaust?

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  1. Kadark Banned Banned

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    It really is disgraceful how people can still, to this very day, demand proof for the unparalleled atrocities of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. It is the most barbaric crime in the history of mankind, perpetrated by Jews and Whites entirely. You know, when somebody denies certain proponents of the Holocaust, they are labeled as racist maniacs. Yet here we have somebody who has the audacity to ask for proof concerning the crimes of slavery at the hands of White men. I'm not Black myself, but people of any race can recognize the brutality of Black slavery and the people who deserve the blame.
     
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  3. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    That was the Holocaust.

    Trans-Atlantic slavery didn't even come close.

    Transporting people across the Atlantic in boats is not a crime.

    Not now, not then.
     
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  5. Kadark Banned Banned

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    You're a fucking idiot, just as I had suspected. The Trans-Atlantic slave trade killed over 30 million Africans over a grueling period of slavery. The Holocaust is NOTHING compared to the crimes of slavery. Transporting people in slave ships is not a crime? One-fifth of the slaves died on those ships, you idiot.
     
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  7. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    Kadark,

    When you leave your mummy and daddies house then you can lecture me.

    Until you do, here's a simple lesson in economics: no merchant throws his own cargo away, whether that be humans, livestock, vegetable or mineral. When was the last time you heard of a businessman destroying his own stock?

    For that simple reason every slave was valued.

    Any losses incurred during trade would certainly have not been malicious on the part of the trader as he would suffer as a result. He would have worked hard to ensure safe transportation of 100% of his cargo. Getting his cargo to its destination enabled him to get paid.

    So if you are trying to represent this as some kind of malicious act similar to the Holocaust you are way off base. Once you've got a job you'll understand what I'm talking about. The Nazis set out to kill the Jews, but the Europeans, Jews and Arabs were involved in a business which required them to maintain the health of the cargo (people) they were transporting.
     
  8. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Way to sugar-coat slavery there, asshole. Maintaining the health is such an arbitrary excuse, considering any and all slaves who were past their prime were ruthlessly butchered. Yeah, you're fed and clothed minimally if you can work; however, the moment you get sick, or the moment aging catches up with your sorry ass, they kill you like you're a worthless animal. The owners of the slaves couldn't have cared too fervently for their unfortunate slaves, considering up to 20% of them died on those ships due to malnutrition. If they didn't die from a lack of resources, they killed themselves because the treatment was unbearable. Your "business" analogy holds no ground with me. What I see is how 30 million Africans were shipped to different parts of the world to be slaves, and how they all died from substandard conditions, or were purposely killed because the food they were fed outweighed their labor contributions.

    Were the Jews killed systematically and targeted by the Nazis? Sure. So were asocials, homosexuals, gypsies, Poles, etc. How many Jews died? Somewhere around five million is the official recording. Now, compare this to how well over 30 million Africans were killed enduring a lifetime of slavery. You cannot possibly compare any event in history to the Black Holocaust, except possibly the Native American Holocaust.

    Oh, and I'm not sure how any of your baseless speculations contribute to this thread; namely, saying I "live with my parents", and I "don't have a job". Not only are you wrong, but you're aggressively stupid and misinformed, too. If you're making the outrageous claims, then I'm going to demand the evidence. Right now, your true colours are showing: a racist, cowardly person.
     
  9. Imperfectionist Pope Humanzee the First Registered Senior Member

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    Involuntarily. Under horrible conditions in which a vast number died and were dumped overboard. With no consideration of family structure. Or nutrition. Or treating disease. To be sold like a machine for farm work. Jesus, what's wrong with you.
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    30 million? That was the number of Indians who died in famines under the British rule. They preferred feeding their armies (which march on their stomachs, as everyone knows).

    Not very different from the structural adjustment policies that western society is currently imposing on the Third World.
     
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    The Raj is incomparable to the Black Holocaust. Looking beyond the death tolls, just take a gander at the conditions of life. Indians lived frugal lives, whereas Black people were slaves. The Black Holocaust is on a completely different level than the Raj.
     
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    Yeah dying of starvation is so much more preferable to being slaves.

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  13. Imperfectionist Pope Humanzee the First Registered Senior Member

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    Whoops I missed that one. Actually, blacks and arabs were first in the slave trade, not whites. Not that whites aren't responsible too, just get the facts straight.
     
  14. Enmos Registered Senior Member

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    Is someone here trying to make the point that being a slave is worse then being killed ?
     
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  15. Kadark Banned Banned

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    The slaves died of starvation, too. They died of illnesses that were ignored. They were killed when they couldn't work efficiently. Stop being such a dumbass.
     
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    That's debatable, enmos, but the slave trade involved many black deaths.
     
  17. Enmos Registered Senior Member

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    Of course, but the premise seems to be "Slavery is worse than the Holocaust".
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Ah I see, while the Indians merely died of starvation under surplus grain production. Of course.
     
  19. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    30 million slaves killed?
    do you have a source to back this up?

    also by solely blaming it on "thewhites and jews" you are being misleading.
     
  20. Kadark Banned Banned

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    I didn't start this thread - a moderator took these posts out of a different thread, because people were going off topic, I guess. The Trans-Atlantic slave trade, which included the shipping of 30 million Africans to different places to work and die as slaves is undeniably the worst crime in history.
     
  21. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Of course the people who sold their own kind into slavery were really nice people to do so and yet no one criticizes them for being the instigators and perpetuaters of the slave business to begin with.
     
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    undeniably?
    in history?!?!
    apparently you dont fully understand what humans are capable of.
    if i could be bothered and if i had the resources i could prepare an encyclopedia of more heinous crimes against humanity that have happened.
     
  23. Enmos Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe by today's standards, it wasn't illegal then though..
     

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