Skin Color and the Origin of Ancient Egyptians

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by q0101, Aug 15, 2006.

  1. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    This is a duplication of another thread on the exact topic from two months ago.
     
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  3. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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  5. Facial Valued Senior Member

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    A lovely cafe, tan color - not unlike Crayola's "Burnt Sienna" tone -

    ... THE WORLD's ASPIRATION, AND THE WORLD's FUTURE COLOR.
     
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  7. valich Registered Senior Member

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    What do you call Asians? Tan or yellow?
     
  8. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    I'd rather die than have a "lovely cafe, tan colour".
     
  9. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Sounds like you dare not ever frequent Starbucks?
     
  10. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    But we already know certain facts about that region. Black people also live in the United States, but they adopted the parent culture, which is AngloSaxon. Same thing happened in Egypt, they adopted the majority dominant culture. Unless you are trying to say a few "white" people came down and conquered the whole North Africa. Of cause they would only have to conquer the original brown people, Ethiopia, the powerful Nubians, and other patches of settlements. It takes a lot of courage to say that. Besides, Egypt had built boats and weapons long before.
     
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  11. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Just as the more southerly Hamites who ranged into southern India naturally selected for darker skin color, so too, the Hamites who ranged farther south in Africa selected for darker skin color.

    The Japhethites and Shemites stayed more in the north, and so selected for lighter skin colors, that's natural selection within the human syngameon, not Darwinian evolution from certain kinds of "cavemen" into certain "races."
     
  12. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not saying they were no white people in Egypt(even though pure white is a great stretch). There were probably brown-white skin people in that region but they could not have been the majority by all evidence. Many of the white people you see in North Africa today are Arabs, and are just as much immigrants.
     
  13. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    A second look at the map of North Africa and its not difficult to see how white people could have dominated North Africa. I am confused. I think Egypt was probably just as white as it was black...I may take back my earlier theory.
     
  14. valich Registered Senior Member

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    I think if you combine what you initially stated and also state above, then you have it accurate. But I think boats and weapons were irrelevant, else why wouldn't Egypt have conquered all of Africa? Because they were much more preoccupied with the earlier Greeks, the Roman Empire and the MiddleEast to focus on sub-Saharan Africa that posed no threat.
     
  15. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Here's what's interesting. Recently I watched a documentary on Discovery Channel about Black Egyptian Pharos. So here's the general consesus amongst the British Scientists. They said Black Pharos didn't take the throne until the post dyanistic period. They mentioned once the Nubians built their empire, they restored the Egyptian Empire. Now what's really interesting is 5 years ago no one besides a few scholars gave credence to the black pharo theory. But the Egyptian Government has been known to hide any artifacts that has supported the Black Egyptian theory.
     
  16. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    I notice white people make fun of other white people with really pale skin? Has this been true in your experience? Women allways prefer Tall dark and Handsome... Why?
     
  17. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Did they also change the human-climate relationship of the Earth then? How come nobody ever addresses this issue? The FACT is that its impossibly to have white people in North Africa...and a couple of miles away you have Black/Brown skin people...not without immigration. The original people of the North Africa were brown, thats is what we know for sure. However, whether white people migrated to that region, destroyed all the settlers and estalished what we know as Egypt is another discussion.
     
  18. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Ganymede:

    You took that line from that hideous "Europe means roped!" website didn't you?

    And actually, people make fun of people for various reasons. Super whiteness is only one thing. People with heavy tans is another. "Tall, dark, and handsome" also only came about from some lover boys that fit that description. Rudolph Valentino decades ago and now men such as Antonio Banderas.

    Considering most people reproduce within their race, I'd say women prefer "their own race, tall, and handsome".
     
  19. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    How did they know this? Where is the evidence? Was it written on the walls? Anthropologists and forensic societies always come up with ideas with no real evidence, this has to stop. Its interesting that Egyptologists don't consensualy agree on certain things about Egypt, yet they know about the politics. The idea that Blacks were only made pharoahs through the end of the dynasty dosn't even make sense.
    First, Egypt has two kingdoms, the upper and lower kingdom. The lower kingdom was part of the powerful and independent Nubian kingdom. In fact, by all socio-political means and references, Egypt itself is a mere extension or derivative of the Nubian kingdom. Long before there was Egypt, Nubia was the dominant empire. Second, most of Egypt's resources was located in the lower kingdom. These resources includes art, agriculture, gems, sand stone, and human resources. Without Nubia Egypt may never have been so independent or powerful.
    The society that claims blacks were not made pharoahs until the end of the empire doesn't know anything about the society, and a lot of these stems from the idea that certain whites don't want to believe that they were once slaves to blacks. It is the age old phenomenom" you see what you want to believe", which is more powerful than fact. If Egypt always had a lower kingdom, who was ruling it? Was it also a white man?
    Long before the Greeks, Roman, and Islamic invasion of North Africa, North Africa was black. At the very least North Africans were something like American Mayans, mixed with brown skins. If we are to believe whites were Egyptians, there should be some evidence of where they came from. What was their original tribe and settlement inside Africa? If they were immigrants then where did they migrate from? And why can't we find any evidence of a war for power if they were immigrants? These are the relevants we need to know, not miraculously inplanting people inside societies and stories.
     
  20. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Chatta, I call it the Evolution of Black History! It's going to take non-Blacks are very long time to accept Africans as equals. Take America for instance, first they said Blacks were to cowardly to serve in the Army, or play on a organized sports team. Then the consensus evolved to "Blacks don't have the intellectual capacity to command a brigade in War, nor did they have the cognitive ability to play on a sports team without White teamates leading them. Now what's scary is, that was the general consensus 60 years ago..(My fucking god thinking of shit like that just makes me want to SCREAM)

    When Texas Western introduced the first all Black starting 5, most of White America thought it was a terrible idea. Because "Negroes" didn't have the leadership skills to carry out such a task. Now lets fast forward to today. Now the Best Basketball players of all time are Black. With a few acceptions, like George Mican, Pistol Pete, Larry Bird, Steve Nash.

    Now back to Egypt, 20 years from now, the General consensus will be that the Ancient pharohs were Black. And by British Scientists classifying the post dyanistic pharhos as Black, it's the genesis of the impending revelation that they were indeed Black

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  21. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Africans may be great in somethings, Ganymede, but where they fail miserably is in intelligence.

    In fact, according to a recent study, the majority of Africa nations have an average IQ within the retarded range.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_IQ

    Also, every single ounce of proof puts the Egyptians as non-Negroid. We went over this in the other thread, in which your beliefs were shown to be without foundation.
     
  22. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Interesting bit but its what we scientists call "incomplete" and thus a blind theory more than a fact. Africans have a low I.Q because their society doesn't call for too many mental abilities, I.Q is relative. It's no more or less significant than saying Europeans are rich and Africans are poor. Europeas were just as retarded not too long ago, they weren't even able to cope with bacteria when it killed 1/3 of their population in the late 1340s, and Europe was in what a lot of scholars refer to as the dark ages before the Arabs. We know that Euopeans were just as retarded before a lot od discoveries, and if they weren't...what proof do you have that Black people were?
     
  23. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    Prince_James

    I can't believe these are what lead you to think that Egyptians were whites, these circumstancial drivels. Intelligence is not inherit or genetic, it is subject to the enviroment. Ancient Egypt and Nubians used to dominate much of the Mid Atlantic and the world, and they must have had a higher I.Q. Intelligence quotient raises and drops with the specialization and framework of the civilization and time. This enviromental dynamics is why modern day Egyptians have lower I.Q today; they aren't even listed in your wikipedia top 20 list. As a matter of fact the Arabs, who once used to dominate much of the world aren't listed on that top 20 list for the same reason. Your assetions doensn't prove anything. See a movie called "Trading spaces" featuring the American actor Eddie Murphy for further detail on enviroment and intelligence.
     
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