Should we go to Mars?

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by Syzygys, Oct 17, 2006.

  1. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Instead of making it a poll, we can just argue about it. I say, no, unless maybe in 30-50 years when we get things in order, like another energysource instead of hydrocarbons and if we avoided another world war. Then we can waste a little energy and money conquering a dry rock...
     
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  3. P. BOOM! Registered Senior Member

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    I think all kinds of new energy technologies would be developed if we went to Mars. Not too many hydrocarbons available there. Technologies that could be applied back home.
     
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  5. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    I believe we should first visit and mine a asteroid, some asteroids recruire less delta V then reaching to the moon. It's relativly easy to launch the mined minerals in orbit, where they can be procests to a large (100people plus) space station.

    This baby would actually make money because it would be large enof to alow a circle shape so there can be artificial gravity and also large enof for side projects like tourism, and asteroids generaly have so much hydrogen that it can also be a fuel station.
     
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  7. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    We should go there as soon as it is physically possible. For God's sake, spending a trillion dollars just to screw up Iraq, I would say that even throwing all that money down a dry hole would be better.
     
  8. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    Let me tell you something, you know when we'll "get things in order"? Never. Human nature will not change, there will always be problems anywhere there are humans. Sticking our head in the sand and waiting for this imaginary utopia will only serve to insure our eventual demise.

    What would our fate be if we decided to ignore space and concentrate on internal matters? Look to history:
    The result? China, who once had the greatest navy in the world, became isolated and backwards. Instead of conquering the world, china soon found western gunships on its shores dictating terms.

    We must move forward, or perhaps, this time, it will be China who boldly goes where no man has gone before. And we will find ourselves isolated and backwards with Chinese gunships on our shores.
     
  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    YES YES YES we should go to Mars!

    Mars is beautiful
    Mars is future (for some its past)
    Mars has sooo much to offer (technologies is the least of these...)
    Mars
    Mars
    Mars is amazing
     
  10. Facial Valued Senior Member

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    The exploration of Mars is a long-term investment. I support it.

    But at the same time, there are problems to solve here on earth.
     
  11. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    Mars is extremely Bad, the prospect of it's colonisation gives us pretty much all reasons to continue to rape the earth.
    We should first terraform earth before we start with mars
     
  12. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    I agree, nevertheless it doesn't mean we should stop trying. I could say the same, do you know when we will conquer other planets? NEVER. But you keep advocating trying it.

    And you can stop posting the chinese 600 years ago, I already got it the first time you did. Again, prove that the world would be a better place today if the Chinese conquered it 600 years ago.

    Let's face it, we are not made for living in space. just because it can be done it doesn't mean it should be. We can also live under the ocean, but again, it doesn't mean it should be done.

    Oh wait a minute! Speaking of ocean. Maybe it makes more sense trying to adopt to ocean life and living then space. After all we have plenty of it right here and with all these gloabl warming and lands disappearing maybe we should just go back where we came from..
     
  13. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, Mars is past, way past its time. It was beautiful when it had water, now it is just a dry rock...
     
  14. jumpercable 6EQUJ5 'WOW' Registered Senior Member

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    .........And getting drier and drier all the time.
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    Wonder if it looked like Erth(sp).
     
  16. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    there is plenty of water for a "small" settlement don't forget that mars still has a north pole cap that is mostly made out of water
     
  17. kazakhan Registered Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    I think in this case it does. We can't keep putting it off, the sooner we get off this rock the sooner mankind benefits. Airplanes only got off the ground a hundred years ago and now access to flights to pretty much anywhere on the planet is available to hundreds of millions. I would like to think that in another hundred years or so millions of us will have access to space...
     
  18. P. BOOM! Registered Senior Member

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    Mankind will not be the only life that will benefit. The history of life on earth is one of expansion, diversification, and so far survival. Ultimately, however, survival is not insured. Sooner or later, BOOM! and everything the earth has brought forth will die. The odds of that happening will be decreased if our planet's life is spread to other planets. Perhaps humans are only the first of Earth's lifeforms to have a chance at doing this. But we could also be the first AND last chance.
     
  19. valich Registered Senior Member

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    It's not should we, it's not if, it's now when. We WILL be going to Mars.
     
  20. jumpercable 6EQUJ5 'WOW' Registered Senior Member

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    And probably when we do go to Mars, we will land nearby an already established chinese Mars base.
     
  21. dixonmassey Valued Senior Member

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    Until "warp" drive is not invented, the is no practical point in the flights to Mars, except state-sized vanity. Regarding new technology, it must be really smart idea to invest X amount of $ so that only fraction of those investments returned as useable on Earth technologies. Why not to invest entirely X amount of $ in those technologies? Here comes commies like nature of military and space expenditures. If trillions of dollars were invested directly by state in something useful, all kinds of rightwinger would yell "communism". Overspending trillions on military and space leave rightwingers mouths shut, everybody is waving American flag, everybody is happy. Nevermind that we could get much better bang for a buck without military-space middleman.
     
  22. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    Mars is a viable place of refuge for a million or so Earth humans and some plant and animal life. One planet has all our eggs in one basket. Unless someone is already there we should go. Also, this is what an advanced society does and is like. If we don't use it we lose it. It is very possible for the entire planet to go retrograde. We also don't want the Chinese to take it. Whatever faults America has, China has many worse faults.
     
  23. Roman Banned Banned

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    Going to Mars doesn't really make sense. What's there for us? A cold vacuum and no hydrocarbons.
     

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