Should the U.S. troops leave afghanistan ?.

Discussion in 'World Events' started by mike47, Jul 31, 2009.

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Do you think the U.S. should pull off Afghanistan ?.

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  2. No

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    42.1%
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  1. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Those people can't be just as dangerous as us? Why not? Aren't they capable of anything other humans are capable of?
     
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  3. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    And look what it cost the people of Afghanistan. Was Obama bin Laden worth that much to the people of Afghanistan? And even now?

    And remember, they could have given bin Laden up after the war started ...but they didn't. They chose to watch their countrymen be killed in a war that they could have stopped at any time.

    The Afghans have no one to blame but themselves. They wanted it this way, so they should quit complaining.

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  5. mike47 Banned Banned

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    The super power is the U.S.A. and NOT afghanistan who can not even find enough food and enough clean water .
     
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  7. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Those same poor, poor Afghans killed three more of our soldiers and Marines this weekend!! They ain't to be pitied, they're to be killed for fighting and killing our troops. The Afghans wanted the war, they asked for it, they could stop it if they wanted to .....they continue to fight and kill our troops. Fuck 'em.

    Baron Max
     
  8. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    By the same token. Was Afghanistan worth that much to the people of the US? To the gov? And now, when the money could have, over and again, paid for a functional health care system? What is the point NOW of the US even being there?
    Nonsense. Bush wanted to invade and occupy. Period.
    That is what your gov would have you believe. The INNOCENT Afghan people NEVER wanted this. The Taliban NEVER wanted this. And they WILL prevail. Period.
     
  9. mike47 Banned Banned

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    The media and the Administration made an excellent job brainwashing the sheeple . Afghanistan did NOT ask for any war let alone a war with the strongest power on earth known as the U.S.A. and backed by NATO and many other wannabees . How many U.S. soldiers died in this country compared to the millions of Afghans who were killed or ended up as refugees in Pakistan, Iran or other countries ??!!.
    This is a uselees war that costs billions of dollars and millions of lives . The solution is to the masses to wake up and see the truth as it is and NOT as dictated by the Administration and their deceiful media . Peace for always .
     
  10. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Obviously it was and is .....we keep funding the war. And in addition to that, our new pres is going to send in more troop so they can killl Afghans faster.

    The "innocent" Afghan never wanted this war? Then why don't they get together and stop it? They could do so in ten minutes or so ...maybe sooner.

    Baron Max
     
  11. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Well, they did a good job of brainwashing, then. Cause the new pres is sending in more troops and the congress is funding more money.

    Y'all blamed Bush before, who are you gonna' blame now?

    Baron Max
     
  12. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Hahahah...!.
    Keep on funding two unjust wars and let the economy be ZERO....hahaha !.
    :crazy::crazy:
     
  13. sentrynox Registered Member

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    To find an answer for this, you must first understand the reasons why you went there in the first place, also you need to know why you are still there, then you need to know what you want change over there, and finally, you must ask yourself if those things really worth remaining there!

    Then you will get your answer yourself! But it is more complicated than it sound, as do you REALLY think that you know the REAL reasons why the Army is still in Afghanistan?

    What I mean here, is in order to find an answer you must educate yourself on why this is it, then after having found all the reasons, you could make your decision. Otherwise, an uneducated decision become a bad decision! So much for democracy...
     
  14. mike47 Banned Banned

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    @Sentynox : what is your take on this then ?. Do not let us guess and guess and guess.....( :: ).
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Let me get this right. It was their fault they asked for due process?
     
  16. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Do you have any logic or explanation as to WHY?
    How do you propose they stop this?
     
  17. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/03/world/asia/03afghan.html?_r=1)

    Its tragic that American youngsters have to die. The resistance is getting stronger and stronger. When are the foreigners going to understand that they are not WELCOME in Afghanistan?
     
  18. mike47 Banned Banned

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    In North Korea Christian missionaries are punished by death sentences . In Afghanistan the missionaries have a carte Blanche to spread their propaganda everywhere . Although the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are for oil, permanent military bases , Israel domination of the Middle East; they have a religious dimension as well which is simply put " the war against Islam and Muslims ".
     
  19. sentrynox Registered Member

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    Well from my point of view and what I have read, the Army isn't in there because of freedom or Bin Laden at all, at least not for freedom in Afghanistan...
    The real reason is energy supplies. Oil reserves are getting depleted, and since the US economy and the currency is based on oil dollars instead of gold, it is important to have the most oil resources possible in order to pay the US debt, or else the US is going bankrupt if someone else than the US take possession of the oil supplies in those regions (Russia, China, India....).
    So for the US to continue growing, they need to secure as much oil as possible into their hands. Because remember, the US is an Empire, not really a country at all! If the conditions that makes the US an empire falls into the hands of someone else, then your country is history, because it is based entirely on its foreign oil trade that is controlling (because oil is mainly traded with US dollars all around the world so far).

    In short the pipeline going in the North of Afghanistan is the strategic reason why the US are remaining there.
    So if I was in the shoes of Obama I would be stuck with two scenarios, the first, continue the war in Afghanistan and pour enough troops to occupy it (which will displease a lot of peoples), or else, prepare an energetic revolution to get rid of the petro dollars and coming with something completely new!!
    So now, which one is cheaper?
     
  20. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yes. The "due process" was to take place on American soil. And more to the point, the Taliban was not the legitimate government ...they were and are nothing but criminals and terrorists.

    Baron Max
     
  21. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    During World War II, the Germans nor the Japanese welcomed the USA into their countries either, but we went anyway, didn't we?

    And interestingly, the German and the Japanese nations are highly prosperous and admired over most of the world ....after we beat the shit outta' them and rebuilt their nations!

    Baron Max
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Why?

    Lets hope the Chinese are watching to see what kind of model you like best in an occupation.
     
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  23. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Because.

    Baron Max
     
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