Er, HELLO! James made the claim: I said that's wrong, BUT IT IS JamesR's claim! It is for HIM to substantiate, not me to defend, got that? Again, the point slips through your fingers. The word 'atheist' is being misused. We cannot debate substance if we do not agree on the meaning of the terms of debate. James has resorted to typing gibberish to try and make a point, and of course, failed. What points do you think have been made? James has used narrow definitions, and misused terms. That's not patience, it's underhanded debating tactics. It's called a 'Straw Man' fallacy. He's setting up terms for his convenience and alleging they apply to me. They don't. Sorry, are you him or yourself? Care to think before you post? Also, I've done nothing ban worthy. This is a forum, where we debate, that implies differences of opinion. If you cannot tolerate such, feel free to go somewhere where dogma is de rigueur.