Should men have a say in abortion ?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by RainbowSingularity, May 25, 2019.

  1. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Is that your justification for abortion?
     
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  3. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Way to go! We are now moving from guns and capital punishment to a culture of violence that I propagated. Holy crap! What's happening to this thread?

    Okay, we'll make it up as we go along.

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  5. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Once again: No. Despite your continuing efforts to avoid the thread topic via that deflection, we aren't.
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    People post things like "Should we kill the children of rapists?" "Should civilians have a say on how military personnel are deployed?" "Just watch Gianna Jensen!" "Bob . . .sometimes plays different gender roles online" - and the thread gets derailed.
     
  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    There was no honest question. I don't enable liars.
    All of us do.
    That's the third time you have been informed of that fact. Reading comprehension problems?
    The limits of your carefully filtered and altered personal experience, however entertaining you think they might be, are off topic.
     
  9. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    All valid questions? An applicable video. As for Bob, I might have made an error
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Are you really wondering whether or not you should kill the children of rapists? I suspect you would never even consider it, and you know that as a society we never would. It was posted to be inflammatory and derail the thread, rather than to be a serious question. Congratulations! It worked.

    Your efforts at inflaming the thread, however, mean that any whinging along the lines of "oh, what's happening to this thread???" is somewhat hypocritical.
     
  11. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Then be honest with yourself.

    Yet abortion is a viable solution?

    A question was asked and I gave an answer. If you have statistics on the subject, post them. Otherwise get over it.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It is certainly A solution. I don't think it's viable, and I wouldn't get one - but I get to decide what happens to my body, and women get to decide what happens to theirs.
     
  13. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    You are avoiding the question. I explained the context in which it was offered, yet you still avoid it. let me rephrase it for you. If a women is impregnated by a rapist, does the unborn child deserve to die?
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Simple - no. Nor does the child deserve to live. At that point, it's up to the woman.

    Want to try to derail the thread some other way?
     
  15. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    And the bodies and lives of others, right?
     
  16. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    [QUOTE="billvon, post: 3581110, member:]At that point, it's up to the woman.[/QUOTE]
    I disagree <---Am I still derailing the thread, bill
     
  17. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Okay. So, the thread is now a clusterfuck. Let's reel it back in.

    Original question - should a man have a say in abortion?
    Prolifers: Yes

    My question: Should they have the final say?
     
  18. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    That [Look at the state of health care, education and child welfare in the states where pro-lifers rule.] is my reason for calling you a liar.

    Sure. Why should you change tactics now?
     
  19. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    To the problem of your reading comprehension, deflection, inflammatory rhetoric and hypocrisy - No.
    To some specific problems relating to some particular pregnancies, yes.
    And you still haven't earned the right to say.
     
  20. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    At last count, that question was answered, definitively and with reasoned argument, 27 times in this thread alone - and I stopped counting pages ago. Out in legislatureland, it's been answered millions of times. But if you really want another go-round, I'm game.
     
  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Always.
    And with you. You pretend to ask questions to dodge the thread topic, and then actually demand that people go along with your pretense - no "answer" is indicated. You ask a relevant question, or even an irrelevant one that is not completely dishonest, you can get an answer - at least the first couple of times (not going to chase your circles forever).
    Like this:
    No.
    It's a solution, obviously. You have no idea what the word "viable" means in that context, so we will agree to ignore it. And you are still off topic.
    You posted irrelevant details of your alleged personal experience, deflecting from the topic.

    Maybe if you reread the OP?
     
  22. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Pro-lifers answered that men should have the final say? I didn’t read that.
     
  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    well, there it is then
    classicism of life value based on your judgement of the nature of perfection as a human attribute decided by you based on your judgement of what you think each human life is worth.

    the excuse to excuse all abuse because the world is a bad place and you cant control it so you demand control of others as you see fit to prove there is a god by being the tyrant controller.

    there is your model of power and control having no moral authority.
     

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