All animals have [enc]intrinsic value[/enc]. I didn't say that. It is interesting that every time the subject of vegetarianism comes up, a whole bunch of meat eaters suddenly can't restrain themselves from crowing about how much they love meat, how they love the smell of burnt flesh on the BBQ, how they salivate at the thought of a semi-raw steak, etc. etc., as if this somehow makes it ok to eat meat. Do you people imagine you're "sticking it up" the vegetarians, and showing them what real men you are, or something? It's like walking down the street shouting at the top of your lungs to anybody who wants to listen: "I LOVE stealing. I steal stuff every chance I get. I just see those plazma screens in the shop and I can't wait to steal one. Man, I love the feeling I get from stealing. There's nothing quite like it! All you law-abiding citizens are really missing out when you don't steal stuff. I've been so much happier since I started stealing. Oh, I tried being honest for a while there, but it was just too much effort. And, you know what? It wasn't fun. I didn't enjoy it. Having to go out and work to get money was a hassle. And nature built me to steal. We all evolved to steal stuff. The fittest survive, said Darwin, and I agree with him. If we weren't "meant" to steal, God wouldn't have given us hands."