Shiekh Rage?

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  1. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    More evidence of what is not happening.

    Ah, well. There you are then. It only concerns that town, in that instance, in that place. There is no trend of religious fascism in interpretation behind it. Shiekh Rage (great name) might have as easily commanded that all people stop to smell the flowers five times a day or be beheaded. Really, it's all a misunderstanding. I'm sure hype will be along to tell us that.

    But whose misunderstanding is it? And does it matter?

    Now, admittedly, this is a "strict interpretation foreign to many Somalis", but what then were the statutes of the prior, 'less-strict' interpretation? Were apostates put to death, or given a fluffy bunny and a big parting hug? I rather suspect the former, and not the bunny.
     
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  3. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    If someone adopts a different religion, Moslems are allowed and encouraged to kill that person, and the Koran says that, one day, the world will submit to Allah, by the sword if necessary, "convert or die," nice religion.

    Look at how Muhammed "evangelized," he'd ride into town with his army, saying "convert or die," that's how Islam the "Religion of Peace" was spread in the Middle East and North Africa, and it is the mode of "evangelism" even today.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Show me the Money.
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0605/p04s01-woaf.html

    What is it with US allies and fundamentalist terrorism?

    On further thinking, it seems to me to be an excellent way to empty a town in three days.
     
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  7. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    NIV Deuteronomy 13:6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.

    12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in 13 that wicked men have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. Destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 Gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. It is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt.

    There you go.
    That combined with the atrocities committed by the Catholic Church in the name of Abraham's God over the years proves it.
    Christianity is evil.
     
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    I agree that the Roman Catholic church has done more harm than good.

    There is an Old Testament (Covenant) and a New Testament (Covenant), so look to how Jesus operated to get a read on how Christians should behave. (By the way, His disciples carried swords.)
     
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    "In the last days, they shall call evil good, and good evil."
     
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    Hey, one raven, would you rather live in Dallas, Texas, or Mecca, Saudi Arabia?
     
  11. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Let's make it more germane to your Christian hating, one raven, would you rather live in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, or in Tulsa, Oklahoma (home of Oral Roberts U.)?
     
  12. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Oh.
    I see.
    So you are saying that the various atrocities committed by the church were the result of either mistranslating the message and intent of the Bible or the actions of evil individuals who knowingly decided to use the Bible to manipulate devout followers who were otherwise good people?
    I can accept that.
    Can you?
     
  13. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Show me indeed. What evidence is in fact presented? There was a rally, of course. I agree that the US should not be messing about with other nations, but islamism is not the answer.

    What? Like al Qaeda then?
     
  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Well, technically speaking that's OT rather than NT. I've never, ever heard of that being offered as a sermon for the faithful, anywhere. There is, of course, room for misinterpretation; but my position is that Christianity is not inherently written that way. Moreover, it doesn't correspond to the common usage.
     
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    Yes, one raven, the Roman Catholic church has committed unspeakable atrocities through the centuries, and much of the reason they got away with it was because they didn't let the common man read the Bible, then along came Gutenberg and Martin Luther.
     
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    The Roman Catholic church has caused more grief to the Jews than any group, except the Nazis and Moslems, since the time of Christ's incarnation, a real black eye for "Christendom."
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Does deja vu ring a bell?


    More like this:

    http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/06/front2453857.1569444444.html
     
  18. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    The Crusades.
    The Spanish Inquisition.
    The razing of countless villages.
    Abortion bombing clinics.
    It obviously is interpreted that way, and has caused arguably more intentional deaths than any other thing in history.

    As far as the official take on the Old versus New Testaments.
    How many Christians have you heard say that homosexuality is wrong because the Bible says so?
    That is found only in the New Testament, among many other steadfast Christian rules.

    The point is, though, none of this makes Christianity evil - it makes those willing and eager to manipulate the followers of Christianity by intentionally (or unintentionally) skewing the words and ideals of the religion and convincing others to follow along with them.

    Many neo-Nazi groups justify their actions using Christianity and these young, bored, angry teenagers swallow it all up because it gives them a place to put their rage.
    The same exact thing happens with Islam.
    Iman alZawahiri is an ideal example of this chickenhawk behavior.
     
  19. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly!
    And that's precicely what this current wave of radical, fanatic, so called Muslim, violence and terrorism is (a relatively small wave, compared to the number of Muslims worlwide, by the way).
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    US funding warlords in Somalia:

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_2716.shtml

    More:
    http://jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2370011
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    More deja vu:

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_2702.shtml

    Incredibly ironic that the American taxpayer is funding the war for and against terror.
     
  22. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    The Koran predicts that the world will be subdued by Islam by the sword, the example of how to do it having been Muhammed.
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Chapter and verse please
     

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