Sex for pleasure

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by G. F. Schleebenhorst, Jul 1, 2006.

  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I never thought of it that way, but you are right.

    You're a deep thinker, Ron; you should write a book.
     
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  3. perplexity Banned Banned

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    I have been told that before but I am pragmatic about it, ... only if a publisher puts the money up front.

    --- Ron.
     
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  5. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

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    Ron, you old hopless romantic, you.
     
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  7. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

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    The young (me being 44) are full of inexperience. This is what characterizes most of their behavior. Years of experience can sour you or enlighten you. Much of that seems to be a choice to me. I choose to proceed as if all of the trials, heartache, and confusion have been enlightenening experiences, propelling me from self-assured, arrogant youth into... ummm... self assured, arrogant maturity.

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  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, everytthing appears very earth shattering when you're young, feel like you're never going to get over it. But as you grow older, I think you not only learn more about people about relationships, you also learn what it is that you want from an intimate relationship. You have to be lucky enough to find the person who best complements you. Sometimes the trials are learning experiences, sometimes they teach you things about yourself you did not know and may not like. One more thing I noticed ( about myself) is I've become a lot more choosy now about who I am willing to be with, less flexible in that but more willing to compromise. Strange.
     
  9. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    agreed for once superluminal. hopeless.
    ya'll talkin bout' lesbians in this thread? seems to me u were talkin about lesbians and pleasure.

    Ron i'll have to disagree - sorry, - but women don't "learn what they need", unless they're first ignorant of the truth. Fact of the matter is that what they need or get or whatever the hell, is actually, the whole point.

    It's simple. Not very difficult. Lesbians, are lesbians. Ok. Men and women, that is the key. Men and women, they can do a lot of cookey things, not only is it fun. I believe a bit of viagra and the pleasure is fun -er than hell.

    So i'm confused about this crazy thread.
     
  10. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    Consider also that women have breasts all the time and their ovulation is concealed. Human females are always receptive to sexual advances. The absence of swollen genitals and the constant presence of breasts keep males always under their spell. If sex were solely for reproduction, women would go into heat and humans would mate only then. It seems likely that human females devised this strategy as a means of keeping males around to protect them as well as their young. Since human infants are so helpless, females who followed this strategy no doubt were at a reproductive advantage over females that only put out when they were ovulating.
     
  11. perplexity Banned Banned

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    That annoys me, quoting something never written.

    I wrote
    "One problem is that women seem to only know what they need when they've already had it."

    N.B. "seem".

    Unfortunately I have not yet met the one you describe, so clear about the truth of what she needs.

    What she does not need, that is another matter. Rarely too much doubt about that.

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  12. perplexity Banned Banned

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    Do you choose what makes your heart beat?

    I have to search around for it, the motivation, something to care enough about.
    Carrot and stick, pie in the sky and jam tomorrow, they don't do it for me.
    Wasted too much time on barking up the blind alleys before.

    That is what I like with sex, the immediate appreciation.
    It works, does the trick.

    --- Ron.
     
  13. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    A very small amount of animals derive pleasure from sex. Primates and cetaceans, and that's about it. Thusly, we should respect and use the capabilites that we evolved to have. They are what make us human.
     
  14. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I read that only humans and dolphins have sex for pleasure

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  15. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Other apes too.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Doesn't everyone need a reason to get up in the morning?

    More and more people make it work these days, but work by itself can only be intellectually fufilling. You still need emotional fulfilment and joy in your life to make it worthwhile.

    But sex? by itself, I would think of it as just momentary pleasure which gets jaded after a while. Its the other aspects of the relationship which alongwith sex make for that feeling of completion. Otherwise, without those feelings its just an act to get over with.
     
  17. nubianconcubine ...observing... Registered Senior Member

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    i got the point of the bulimia analogy. people eat food to live supposedly but then some will throw it up, ultimately defeating the purpose of eating in the first place. keeping that in mind, people tend to have sex, which was ( i used past tense for a reason ) the way to have offspring, only to prevent conception, which theoretically defeats the purpose of having sex.
    however, people don't need to have sex to survive so bulimia tends to be a much more severe problem than having fruitless sex. hell, sex isn't really a problem unless you want to get into the religious ramifications of it (go forth and multiply).
    it is true though that women have developed ways to use sex as a way to keep babies that will be created alive into adulthood; keeping the man interested, around, and useful in the event of danger.
    and while we're on the subject of sexual pleasure, has anyone noticed that the animals that do it for pleasure are group animals? apes, dolphins, whales, etc. all "herd" animals. is it also a tool for keeping the group togethor? if so, would the fact that humans like having sex allude to the fact that orgies are more natural than society is comfortable with?
    just a thought.

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  18. nubianconcubine ...observing... Registered Senior Member

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    i agree. but i am a woman and sex is not an actual driving force in my life. males are naturally driven to seek out mates, as many as possible at that, in order to spread their genes. women are the ones that need the emotional attachment and women are the ones that needed and developed a way to keep the male around.
    i swear i am not a sellout to my gender. but i have spent more time around my brother and his friends than is most likely healthy. men are a totally different species in my opinion. but their simplicity - not mentally. altogether - is great. of course i've had a better time of making and keeping male friends than female.
    ...i'm probably going to get thrashed for this post...
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    And I thought it was men who wanted exclusivity to be sure of their progeny?
    After all, there's never any doubt who the mother is.

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    Their friendships are different from those of women, I wouldn't necessary classify them as better.

    I know what you mean, though, I was surrounded by guys growing up so I deal better with them; I've had some good friendships with women too, though I admit I seem to be missing the cootchie-coo gene.
     
  20. nubianconcubine ...observing... Registered Senior Member

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    you have a point there. i think men today are so uptight about the child belonging to them is because they will be having to take care of it.

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    all my relationships with women tend to end disastrously. i think i'm missing something inherently female. like strings.

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    my brothers girls were shameless.
    seriously, i've had bad relationships too because men are always waiting for the other proverbial shoe to drop and when it doesn't, they go out of their mind and accuse me of trying to play them. :bugeye:
    why is it my fault that i'm not a gold digger?!
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Ya, I hate these paternity tests; can't fool the guys anymore

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    men are simple creatures; they can't understand a woman who can think for herself. You have to be sort of needy and ignore them both at the same time. Thats their comfort zone.

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    Same thing with the girls; if you're like me you probably can't stand the wispy baby doll look. Women don't get it anymore than the men.
     
  22. nubianconcubine ...observing... Registered Senior Member

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    yuck. barbies.
    gotta give 'em credit though. they do play the game well.

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  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe, but I doubt the look wears well; though considering some of the men I know, it probably doesn't matter.
     

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