Sciforums members from Western Europe: Are you grateful on D-Day?

Yes, us Brits eventually paid our lend/ lease off to the USA.
But Stalin wasn't charged anything for help from the UK or the USA.
And after the war he kept it as secret as possible from his own population that we were even on the same side.

 

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lol 1 third of the poulation think that russia would have won it on there own

 

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Not a chance, or at least not without a much longer fight.

 

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no there wasent a chance we opend up a second front

 

Third actually. We only called it "Second Front" because it was OUR second front, third for Germany: Europe/ Russia/ Africa.

 

the african front was nearly over then so kinda 2 and russia did kill the most germans though however you won't find that in there hollywood movies of americans single handedly lol

 

The North African campaign finished two whole years (all but one month) after Germany invaded Russia...

 

i'm still suprised america lost more men then us in a shorter time span

 

Gung-ho attitude mostly, in the early days, coupled with a fallacious belief in their own superiority.

 

ther emilitary is big and well equpid but lack training

 

Nope, it wasn't so much the training as lack of experience, and most of the troops had been led to believe they were worth three or four German troops each.
The fact was that German troops had enough combat experience and a flexibility of command structure that the ratio was 2:1 or more the other way round - throughout the war in general.
It led to considerable losses.

 

i mean now back then i think the americans nether realy had that much experince

 

http://www.learningcircuits.org/2001/feb2001/
My emphasis.
They lack training? With a budget of twelve billion dollars?

 

trust me thye arnt that bright on the battle field in vietnam the australians couldent belive the amount of noise they made afganistan friendly fire is the norm i just think that they lack somthink up in the head

 

Can you prove it?

Because of different operational and tactical doctrines. The Americans had superior firepower in nearly all cases and used that rather than sneak about. Which they were fully capable of doing when circumstance required it. MACV/ SOG being just one example.

Friendly fire is NOT the norm.

Because they don't operate the way you think they should?

 

jesus i aint gona post here cuase i know were this is leading

 

Don't get me wrong. I'm not a huge fan of the "spams", I've heard enough cock-up stories (on both sides, by both sides, UK and USA).
But when they decide to get the job done, politics permitting, they're damned effective.

 

i just kinda find there tactics abit well violant i think about me not hearing about our cock ups is cuase propaganda maybe?

 

Boys with toys attitude, mainly

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Bliar (and any UK government) is far, far behind the USA on publicity.
You won't remember the Falklands, the most televised war we ever had, and very little real stuff was said, good or bad.
Bad stuff is usually kept to a court of enquiry - like the time a Challenger tank hit another one and injured some of the crew. Or the Challenger that shot up a Warrior MICV? Not much in the news about that was there?

 

i did some reasearch on the fawklands and dosent look that majot tbh