Sciforums members from Western Europe: Are you grateful on D-Day?

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russia

 

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russia wasnt ever "with" germany...they just agreed to not be "against" them.

 

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then what about the invasion of poland russia was helping them aswell

 

as horrible as it was, it was a preventative measure to keep hitler from expanding further east.

stalin didnt want hitler on his doorstep, im sure....so he used eastern europe as a buffer. simple strategy to allow military buildup.

i believe stalin would have attacked the germans, had hitler not beaten him to the punch.

 

There was a non-aggression treaty between Germany and the USSR, not an alliance.
The invasion of Poland wasn't "helping" Germany so much as Russia staking its claims on Polish territory - something they'd had in mind for years. They just took advantage of the German invasion to help themselves.

 

nah i dout it cuase hitler was the only man stalin like posibly loved thats why he wouldent heed the advice hitler was going to atack himj

 

Stalin ignored intelligence information that Germany was planning an attack (gathered by Richard Sorge IIRC), and flatly refused to believe that an attack would be forthcoming.
There is a new book out which, supposedly, shows that Stalin was preparing an attack against Germany but from what I've read it's mostly pro-Nazi propaganda and unsupported by the disposition of Soviet military units at the time.

 

interesting...my statement above was complete speculation based on what i know of stalin's personality and info gleaned from people that lived under his rule.

 

Nothing quite like fighting for your life:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/5/newsid_3547000/3547329.stm

http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/fdr-prayer.htm

http://www.romanempire.net/romepage/images/ArtGallery/BattlePics/2002/ourline1_11-30-02.jpg

 

stalin was as bad as hitler some say however he saved us in the war from the nazis

 

He saved himself.

 

however he saved us in doing that

 

Britian saved it's own ass before he got attacked.

 

With tons of help from us and the USA.
All of which he conveniently ignored and denied after the war.

 

lol well we payed out debt back to you so you can't clain high ground mister 2 years later

 

We paid our debt back? Stalin owed US the debt.

 

i was talking about the british sry

 

many units from the allied countries in exile also helped. i know polish units were attched to british forces on d-day i'm almost positive french forces were there and probably others

 

i know for exapmple polis sumbrines in the royal navy and in the battle of britian polish units got the best kill ratio