Scientists discover that atheists might not exist, and that’s not a joke

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  1. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    The value of "creation mythology"?
    Well, I guess it's a convenient label for supporting atheist beliefs?
    The value it has , outside of such beliefs, is questionable.
     
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Oh, I should add:

    "...most internet atheists seem totally obsessed with Biblical Christianity and its Hebrew roots"

    This is not particularly surprising, since most internet atheists still live in countries whose religious traditions are primarily Christian. Atheists are actively persecuted in many countries, but the proportion of non-believers in western nations is now above 20%, on average, and atheists are free to speak their minds there without fear of being prosecuted by religious authorities.

    Having been brought up in cultures where Christianity is the dominant religion (mostly), internet atheists tend to be most familiar with that religion. It is also the belief system they most often encounter in their own cultures.

    Some use this apparent "obsession" with Christianity to imply that atheist arguments don't apply to "eastern" religions, or to other religious traditions. When it comes to specific points of doctrine, that can be true. However, the major thrust of atheistic argument, against supernaturalism in all its manifestations, makes no distinction between particular religious traditions. No religion is exempt from atheist criticism - barring those elements of religions that involve philosophical ideas rather than notions of the supernatural and paranormal.
     
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  5. Capracus Registered Senior Member

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    It has obvious anthropological value in any case, probably especially to atheists. So what value does it hold for you and others inside the belief?
     
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  7. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Contrary to popular (atheistic) belief, anthropology is not a sub branch of atheism.
    It's simply another hijackef label from the discipline of science that atheists utilize to bolster their position with false airs of superiority.

    As already mentioned, such ideas have no value outside of the beliefs of atheism.
     
  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The confusion of theism and religion provides cover for theists claiming the benefits of religion for theistic belief.
     
  9. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Contrary to your dreamworld, no 1 claimed or implied such.

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  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Or loosely. Many Abrahamic creationists discard details of the Biblical creation.
     
  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Not everyone. Just you guys, posting on these science forums.

    These forums are not under continual assault by bad faith posters of stealth reincarnation, Karma, manifestation of atheistic souls in despised animals, and so forth.
     
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  12. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah ... so says the wiki-taoist on a website that gets so much traffic related to religious discourse, that it is the only forum to be archived.
     
  13. Capracus Registered Senior Member

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    But it is the gift that keeps on giving in regards to justifying a position of atheism.
    Nothing worse than having an opinion bolstered with all that fake sciency stuff.
    So if you consider primitive concepts of cosmological creation to be worthless, that can’t bode well for the rest of their notions of cosmology and metaphysics.
     
  14. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Since the scriptures of the various religions contradict each other at very many points, one can pretend to harmonize them only by 'picking and choosing' particular passages that sound similar in each one. Superman, Captain Marvel, Batman, Spider-Man, Green Lantern & Wonder Woman are clearly not the same beings tho they have much in common. There are 3 Captain Marvels who are clearly not the same. The gods of different scriptures are just as clearly not the same. Claiming they are the same is like someone on LSD claiming they can see god.

    It is not that souls deny anything. It is that they have forgotten.

    When rightly understood. Like christians claiming you cannot understand the bible without guidance of the holy spirit.
    From the intro to The Bhagavad Gita As It Is : Well, I thought to copy&paste a paragraph. Anyway, it essentially says 1 must believe it in order to understand it.

    It is not that internet or other atheists are unfamiliar & therefore not able to discuss other religions. There is no telling what various people are familiar with until it comes up. Nearly always, it is a theist who brings it up. If a theist wants to discuss something nonchristian or nonabrahamic, they can say so & clearly define it. If it is explained well, nearly any atheist I have seen on this site can discuss it even if they are not well educated on it. The main factor is the person who supposedly knows explaining what he wants to discuss & clearly answering questions about it. Currently, at least, our theists give the overwhelming impression that they know barely anything about their claims as if it simply popped into the head & out the "mouth".

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  15. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    On the contrary, it gives nothing to atheism, outside of the beliefs of atheism.

    Having an opinion that is falsely connected to science also poses sumilar scientific problems.

    Your considerations are just simply that : your considerations.
     
  16. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    There are no beliefs of atheism. Accept reality.

    Your dreamworld is only your dreamworld.

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  17. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    That's a tenet of atheism you break with every search enginable meme you post.
     
  18. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    That is absurd. As usual.
    There are no tenets of not being a theist.

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  19. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Well.
    You just gave us one.
    And you can't even manage to control yourself to be obedient to it.
    So go figure ....
     
  20. Capracus Registered Senior Member

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    The more that is known about the cultural evolution of religions, the less divine significance they have to everyone.
    What opinions would those be?
    My consideration? Such a short memory. You're the one that finds no value in these primitive religious conceptions.
     
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    Comment erased. Proper response to such as above may be seen as ad hominem.

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  22. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    So you believe.

    Yours, if you believe science is no different from atheism.

    Um.
    You're the one talking about "creation myths".
     
  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    SIASL:

    You might want to consider leaving the ad hominems out of your posts. They don't help your argument.
     
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