Treatment that "might" keep their lives from becoming shit IS bullshit. Let me know when they know for sure, instead of believing that it "might" work. One of our civil rights that has gone missing is the right to call bullshit on popular bullshit. As I've already said, drugs seem to do more work on the people who want you to take them than on the people who are taking them. For whatever reasons, when parents actually expect better behavior from a child, they get it. I was pretty much intractable because my mother was a psycho bitch from Hell. Do you think that I don't believe in mental illness because I don't believe in the ADD and ADHD diagnoses? "Psycho bitch from Hell" is definitely mental illness. It is a form of insanity in which the mother either kills her children or makes them wish that they were dead. Which one of those describe me, anyway? A person has to be able to escape the grind. I cannot believe that children who, unprovoked, are climbing the walls and disrupting class are the same group who are shown to have more alpha and delta waves and greater coherency between the hemispheres. These are people who can concentrate and if you know how to work with them and give them credit for having minds, they tend to have greater intelligence. Mental agitation can be covered up by getting high or getting hopped up. I just about wet my pants when I found out that my nephew was being kept on 20 milligrams of amphetamines, and he weighs less than 100 pounds. I'd be afraid that a dose like that would kill me outright, and I weigh over 200. Let's not confuse treatment of mental illnesses or disorders with attempts to maintain people in some sort of politically correct mental state while in hostile environments. I hope that you, Huwy, do not believe that a person is "paranoid" if he thinks that there are threats against his life when there are actual threats. That's what the psychologist actually told me, that the fact that there were actual threats didn't make a difference. I was paranoid.