Science already knows the magic of gravity

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  1. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    What?

    And from underneath.
    It's called "floating".

    Um, boat hull generally AREN'T v-shaped.

    Yep, it's called floating.
    (Oh, and it's NOT "crushing pressure").
     
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  3. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    I will add a diagram , and boats that are not v- shape have more spread mass,

    The water from left and right wants to fill the space the boats hull occupies pressuring the sides of the boat, making the boat rise, stopping it from sinking.
     

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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Why do think adding a diagram would help?
    I've studied naval architecture, YOU aren't going to teach me anything.

    What?
    ALL boats displace more water than their own mass.
    Otherwise they wouldn't float.

    Or from underneath.

    That's why they float.
     
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  7. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    from underneath yes , but not the water pushing back the boat pushing the water,
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    This is trivial to disprove in several ways.

    Heat up a sealed tank of air. Its weight will not change. It will not rise or fall. Therefore your conclusion is incorrect.

    Cool some helium to 0C, much colder than air. Fill a balloon with it. The balloon will rise. Therefore your conclusion is incorrect.
     
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  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    What?
    The water pushes the boat just as much as the boat pushes the water.
    If the water didn't push back equally then the boat would - by definition - sink.
    Because it would be pushing down MORE than the water pushed back on it.
    If the two "pushes" weren't in equilibrium then the situation wouldn't be static.
     
  10. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    helium has more energy than air, and gains quicker than loss.
    air heated in a tank will not compensate for the tank, has the tank warms up , the exchange rate to gravity increases of the tank so the tank remains the same weight.
     
  11. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    maybe.
     
  12. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    That's a fact.
    And how does this relate to your (incorrect) claim about hydrogen/ helium?

    What energy does it have?

    Gains what quicker?

    Utter crap.
    Adding energy to anything makes it heavier.
    Your claim about "adding energy to make air lighter" is WRONG.
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Fill a balloon with radon. It certainly has more energy than air. The balloon will sink. Therefore your comparison is incorrect.
    The balloon heats up as well. Therefore your comparison is incorrect.

    This is the problem with making stuff up. Your devices will fail, because reality does not care about your woo.
     
  14. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    air is lighter than water but heavier than helium and hydrogen, add energy to air and it becomes the same as helium and hydrogen and starts to float.
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    1 kg of air weighs EXACTLY the same as 1 kg of hydrogen. Or 1 kg of water.

    No.
     
  16. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    TC... for the love of science, please stop...
     
  17. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    tc, please stop.
     
  18. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    For the love of science stop, huh?

    Science has no answer to/for the mechanism of gravity, there is no science for a mechanism, so for the love of science stopping is an option for the complacent.

    What, really?

    It is no point in even learning any science if people say stop when we look at new things.

    It is simple , all atoms are critically balanced in energy of plus and negative, an increase in either makes the atom move.
     
  19. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    It is simple what I do, I do not just think of the why and how's, I also think of cause and effect of the original idea. Change, once you know the mechanism then things change.

    Gravity including orbits is critical balanced, a maglev is critical balanced, a boat is buoyant , helium is anti-gravitational, one is not the same as the other.
     
  20. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    The boat is pulled down by gravity always, the boats direction is centripetal, helium is not effected by gravity, it is never pulled down by the earth, can you not see the difference?
     
  21. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Demonstrably wrong.

    Demonstrably wrong.
     
  22. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Ok, explain please, I stand corrected if you can explain, as long as your explanation does not involve human interference I will accept your version.
     
  23. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Is hydrogen also anti-gravitational?
     

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