Saudi's jail woman for coffee drinking @ Starbucks

Discussion in 'World Events' started by madanthonywayne, Feb 11, 2008.

  1. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Why the hell shouldn't they have an American company on their soil? You'd prefer Blenz?

    I assumed Zak meant why have the Starbucks there if you're going to arrest people for drinking the coffee in mixed company. Do restaurants in Saudi Arabia typically have a male/female section to avoid this scandalous behavior? Or are women just expected to always have a chaperone with them?
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The muttawwas have arbitrary rules.
     
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  5. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    the wonderful world of islam. what freedom!!!
     
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  7. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    How true. They've even got freedom to live on the West Bank courtesy of Israel.
     
  8. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    When I read: The National Society for Human Rights (NSHR)
    I immediately thought of "The Patriot Act"

    funny isn't it? How one is so obvious to the one and the other to the other...
     
  9. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    considering they wanted to finish off what Hitler started it is.
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    If I recall it is to remove the military backing the US gives the Sauds that some people are fighting.
     
  11. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    the sauds control in the ME will end, one way or another.
     
  12. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    OK Zak, I'm missing something here. She knew the laws of the country, but chose to break them anyways. Isn't this what civil disobedience is?
    What am I not understanding?
     
  13. Bells Staff Member

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    She was not in a private or secluded place with the unrelated male, but in a public and busy coffee shop. From madanthonywayne's link in the OP:

    "According to Al-Angari, several serious violations of human rights were apparent in this case. “First of all, Yara was not in a state of khulwa,” said Al-Angari. “She was in a public place where people were all around them,” said Al-Angari."

    Then of course we have the fact that the fact that she was arrested by a male member of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, who then forced her into a taxi cab and took her to another location to be strip searched. The irony and the hypocrisy of this is astounding. The member of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice is also an unrelated male, who arrested her for having a cup of coffee in a public and busy coffee shop with an unrelated male. He then forced her into a taxi (more secluded and private than a coffee shop), being an unrelated male himself, he was breaking the very rule he was apparently arresting her for and then took her to prison.

    She was then denied the right to call her husband or her family, also a big no no.

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    There is another aspect to this story that I found particularly interesting. Again from madanthony's link:

    Trying to prove a point maybe?
     
  14. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    ooooooo, I thought the law applied to anywhere, not just a private secluded spot.
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Not anytime soon. Like the Israelis, they have the backing of the US. Thats 800 billion dollars of Saudi money in circulation, 65% of which is invested in the US. I'd say they rate higher than Israel.
     
  16. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    thats because of their oil, nothing more. suadia is the number one sponsor for terror. oil is the only reason the US didnt invade them. and unless obama wins, their next.
     
  17. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    You sure about that? I would argue that the government of the United States has been the leader in state-sponsored terrorism for generations. Supporting dictatorships and apartheid states has always been policy if we thought it in our interests. And those we sponsor don't use a few airplanes as missiles - they use whole air forces. And it's our cash that makes it possible. Why be upset with another nation doing exactly as we? Ah... yes. The old "do as I say not as I do argument?

    Off topic: How the hell has everyone been? The WE&P forums are still exciteable, I see.

    :m: Peace.
     
  18. Bells Staff Member

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  19. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
    <wimper> its him! its goofyfish!!!
     
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    Hi goofy!! Welcome back!

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  21. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Invading Saudi Arabia?

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    You do know what invading the holiest places in Islam will not go down with the Muslims in Western countries, even those who have till now supported the terrorist attacked and illegal invasion and occupation by the US forces and those who are serving in the US army?
     
  22. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    blah. US is far from being terrorists. its a democracy defending itself against the backward population of the ME. they didnt even realized how bad it is in the ME until they got there.


    of course you accept the result of the muslim world when they are under attack, other then the result when it is the US who was and is under attack.


    i dont.
     
  23. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    The actions of the US after 9/11 can be regarded as terrorism, both in the most accepted defintion and in the economic sense. Iraq was never a threat and never attacked the US. It was the only secular country where all groups were protected, unlike your ally Saudiland run by murderous dictators.
     

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