SARS CoV-2(covid_19) & Vaccine Resistance excalating

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  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    "The experience in Europe is that approximately one in every 250,000 people vaccinated with AstraZeneca is diagnosed with the rare blood clots. One person in Australia developed the syndrome after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine."

    i was just reading some medical data
    it was using basic facts to compare clotting between different common human behaviors(taking medication or becoming ill or drug use)

    the interesting part that surprised me was not the common medications and drugs that caused clotting thousands of percent above the vaccine
    but the rate of clotting in COVID19 infection
    which is listed as 165,000 per million


    what so many people are ignorant of(willingly often) is the nature of SARSCoV-2 in how it is a protein involving virus
    and humans are made up of protein
    every single part of the human body is reliant on protein.

    countrys isolated by extreme weather where travelers can not gain access t introduce the virus
    and island nations can wait out the blood clot issue & pick and choose among other vaccines as more people die from the side effects

    you need to keep in mind that in some countrys there is a high rate or normalized medication use inside society


    when you add on serious injury risk groups to those each individual existing medication or health risk
    you get a much higher likely hood of an outcome with an onset of a serious illness

    the human body can only take soo much


    basic common food issues that can contribute to blood clots in my opinion
    high bad fats /saturated fats cooked oil burnt oil super heated oil
    possibly high salt
    though i suspect this needs new advanced research and may yield some new ground
    (or maybe it is not the salt as much as a symptom of high saline blood or organ levels combined with something else like low hydration & something else)
    excess red meat(undigested red meat)
    excess levels of spices & herbs that thin or thicken blood over decades
    poor diet combinations including mono diets(diets which are mostly nutrient poor and consist of a majority single food) that contribute to increase risk levels (mono diets[including lack of nutrients] like eating only bread or only mc donalds or KFC/fried chicken etc)

    hydroxychloroquine

    Dennis is mentioning "Treatments" which tends to run into the area of hydroxychloroquine
    there is significant people involvement around malaria which gives indications towards some anti viral aspects, but this appears to be an excessively grey area for any real wide spread use.
    as we see anti-vaxer media propaganda take hold via many different propaganda agents in the media disseminating it
    we see it costing thousands of lives and billions of dollars
    however i do agree
    not all cultures share the same morals and ethics
    and being over run by a foreign population who are anti-vaxers and more importantly ANTI science and anti common law and anti-equal rights is a serious concern


    each country needs to be self accountable for their own moral population control mechanisms
    in what ever form their people choose
    be that 1 child policy
    baby girl infanticide
    elderly denial of medical service
    poor denial of medical service and deliberate malnourishment
    pricing medical care & access good health foods out of common reach etc
    wars and acts of terror etc

    • separate thread Population controls by culture express implied & random causes and practices


    bleach injections
    does anyone know what he meant by this statement ?
    did anyone ask him ?
    was he gas lighting a racial issue to gain votes ?
    was he making a joke ?
    was he referring to some basic medical concept ?
    was he creating false media to gain headlines ?
    was he flaming someones proposed treatment ?

    • etc ... best kept to its own thread if you decide to make one
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    how much money owned by the working class has been spent on covid vaccines soo far and committed contractually to be spent already ?

    must be considerable yes ?

    it appears no one wants to publicize any real figures of financial losses and costs
    probably because they fear it will give momentum to unseat their personal hold on power

    keep in mind
    if behaviors go un checked
    all those trillions dumped into the current vaccines may be worth less than 50% of their original investment


    eeewww
    i just got interrupted by a guilt trip power trip attempt
    coated in projected fear and victim validation attempt

    yuck
    almost lost my train of thought

    so regardless of the little hitlers holding on to their jungle bunny trend champagne party cultures
    the madding hoards will not be kept quiet when the vaccine efficacy falls below a certain level and the required increased profit must be then metered out to purchase the upgrade
    which may have reduced efficacy anyway

    hitler was a smart guy
    serial killers can be smart
    look at all those suicidal cult leaders and terrorist leaders

    moral disgust does not invalidate the intellectual power of an individual just because someone doesn't like their moral values
    that reality is part of the issue with those opposing liberal idle lazy entitlement concepts
    but they probably dont see the wood for the trees
    and its mostly always Ego Greed driven

    perfect example of how selectively sheltered some people live
    i was talking to a woman who works in an advanced contact center(call centre financial & banking services customer & product cutting edge)
    she did not know you could medically pre pregnancy select the gender of a baby

    she is around 30 to 40 years old

    what is one persons obvious reality is another persons never considered impasse
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    how many people is 1% of 1 million people out of a 60 person trial of this ivermectin ?
    and were they all in hospital ICU with severe covid ?

    less than 1% of those vaccinated get blood clots

    how much is 1% of a 60 person field trial of non severe covid patients ?

    you see how terribly dishonest this type of media is
    its like advertising recreational drugs and alcohol to children
     
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    Malaria is a parasite, not a virus.

    He was angry that Fauci and Birx were getting all the attention, so he thought he'd have a scienc-y idea like they did, and maybe people would support him more and them less.
     
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  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the idea of treating the blood to make the blood cells resistant to incursion by the virus once it was in the blood supply was a debated concept
    among people who have layered complex vaccinations there were reports of some combinations giving increased resistance to other things
    that level of hematology science is vague
    there was vague indication that a compound carried in the blood could disrupt the protein bonding
    real fringe science stuff not main stream media at all
    a lot of urban myth gets mixed into it from cultures who claim things like a spice/herb/prayer/sacrifice will create immunity for gods chosen etc

    the hydroxychloroquine debate was about it changing the blood cell outer wall
    the main drive around it was probably ownership of the product contrasted with the required investment to fund a vaccine & the inability to own the patent and distribution rights.

    malaria is a huge global issue in countrys that wont spend the money on anti malaria drugs
    all those anti malaria drugs come from western countrys

    additionally those same countrys receive a lot of AID and medical science field trials of developing vaccine science and research

    it is a multi billion dollar industry that gives free medical aid to dirt poor people in exchange for trialing their research

    malaria is likely to spread up into the southern united states as time goes on and so grabbing a global position with 1 of only 2 possible anti malaria drugs would have been an early clear lead in global market control

    was this the reasoning behind the previous USA administration pulling out all its aid from south America and Africa ?
    possibly usa is all about the money.
     
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  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    India is now up to 150,000 new infections every single day
    https://tinyurl.com/5ep3xpw9

    2.5% kill rate

    = 3750 dead every day

    India daily death statistics is 0.70% of their population per day
    they have a massive over population issue

    covid kill rate is aggregated to roughly 2.5% of infected people total

    so if you assume covid will infect all Indians

    their death rate goes from
    0.70% per day
    to
    3.20% per day

    0.70% as a fraction of 3.20
    4 times 7 is 28
    5 times 7 is 35
    its closer to 5 times
    = 500% increase in daily death rate

    see how simple maths is

    in india death is profit like many other countrys.
    however because the country runs more along an agrarian process
    death becomes a cost to income as a majority
    while it concentrates power
    look at new york
    richest city in the world
    could not afford to bury its own dead
    where is the lesson ?

    why do you(meaning me)care asks the psychopaths

    should i report myself for off topic posting ?

    what is the link ?

    at what point does the new variant over run the systems ability to cope with the dead and the new infections ?

    the system needs to be able to adapt to the new variants to produce new vaccines

    is the any rough guide to factor a possible mutation rate with new variants as a new infection rate ?
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/france-suspends-brazil-flights-due-virus-variants-77043875

    Although France has seen comparatively few known cases of the P.1 variant striking Brazil, the ravages it is causing in Latin America’s largest nation are increasingly raising alarm bells in France.

    Castex noted that travelers from Brazil already needed to test negative for the virus before their departure and upon arrival in France, and also quarantine for 10 days. But the government was also facing mounting calls from health experts for a flight suspension to further limit potential spread.

    i expect France has a big problem with muslim anti-vaxers
    once a new variant takes hold inside them, it will be hard denying them hospital treatment as the bodies start piling up in the streets

    easier to be tougher at the start than when you have to start digging mass graves AND defending from the zombies

    if the new variant renders the vaccines almost useless ...
    how much will that cost FRANCE working class tax payers
    AND

    how many lifes will that cost ?
     
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  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    black market in india is HUGE

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56757405
    India's desperate Covid-19 patients turn to black market for drugs
    By Vikas Pandey
    BBC News, Delhi
    Published
    5 hours ago

    big difference between dodging border controls and fake drugs

    se the real issue is there is no hospital space left so
    obviously based on that single statistic
    there wont be any medications left

    i wonder if they are selling fake vaccinations ?
    if they start vaccine passport they will be a terrible amount of forgery and fakes

    how much will it cost to produce a vaccine passport that is of equal quality to a passport ?

    $400 US$ each ?
    plus administration costs of $200

    but how many border workers will care about checking for real versus fake if they have missed some fakes
    and they are being paid to ignore the fakes

    can astrazeneca be dumped for cost/write off on India ?(given for free to the indian government to use as they choose)

    is there a risk of partial roll out gaining vaccine resistance by incubation ?
    is that an issue ?

    is there a life range for the protein issue ? (protein blocking and disabling)

    is it better to keep all vaccines out of indian populations until they have gained control of their medical system to roll out a full scale vaccination program ?
     
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  13. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Why not just continue using up the current passports already produced (all countries)

    Then move to a combined Country / Vacinated passport

    Might require specialised Vaccination Clinics set up (all countries)

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  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    how many regular travelers, whom will be the majority wanting vaccine passports
    carry more than 1 passport ?
    probably the majority
    so 1 more passport should not be an issue
    but if they have more than 1 passport
    will the vaccine passport stamp passport be not inspected properly
    can they switch easily between passports and fool lazy customs border people ?

    some countrys have a lot to lose by fake vaccine passports allowing in new variants to undermine their vaccine programs
    probably European tourist countrys will be most at risk
     
  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Unless dual nationality or evil mastermind should only have one passport

    I did think if you do not travel overseas you can request only one page be reserved for overseas travel

    Make Blue tint page for country

    Yellow tint page vaccination

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    where the money is, has a lot of dual nationality, unles they are residential somewhere else & have given up their origin passport
    they probably travel with just 1 while keeping the other in one home
    or travel with both and only present which ever one is more preferred.
    business is the other big driver and the company will pay so thats not an issue

    travel agencies will get in with tourism operator business committees(lol oh the socialism of the self acclaimed capitalists) to bargain down the vaccine passport for family travel later on once the big new money has gone

    the issue is when the madding herds start to become more fashionable
    and the price access becomes a money spinner for over seas work
    or localized sales of fake vaccine passports(if they are made as a separate item not physically attached to a passport which is the most likely reality)


    what will develop is

    workers
    working for rich people
    under the table with free accommodation etc etc
    home help etc etc
    will be looking to purchase fake travel documents
    to make money

    thats where the big movement will start to move including more premium over seas work visas combined with a fake vaccine passport etc

    that is how the current human behavior works

    that wont change just because people think its immoral
     
  17. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    This looks concerning

    BRAZIL
    stats from daily death figures
    keeping in mind their daily infection rate is around 140,000 new cases per day
    based on death stats published at 4,000 covid deaths per day at 3% kill rate
    now while massive infection is incubating & circulating un-checked
    they are slowly rolling out vaccines


    Chile
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56731801
    Chile sees Covid surge despite vaccination success

    table results vaccination sequence roll out (possibly too slow while the virus infection surges

    so mixing new variants with vaccinated people)
    but considering the probable spread

    does the new variants have such a high viral load that the vaccine is unable to make a large difference in the new variants ?

    https://github.com/owid/covid-19-data/blob/master/public/data/vaccinations/country_data/Chile.csv

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    There is also confusion about how the vaccine that the vast majority in the country has received works, Prof Bueno adds. More than 93% of the doses administered in Chile so far have been CoronaVac, produced by the Beijing-based biopharmaceutical company Sinovac.

    Data on the efficacy of the CoronaVac vaccine is varied. Brazilian trials suggested an efficacy rate of around 50.4% but results from late-stage trials in Indonesia and Turkey suggested a much higher rate - between 65% and 83%.

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    Population: 18,950,000 (2019) World Bank
    people_fully_vaccinated

    2021-01-01

    both doses
    0


    both doses

    2021-03-02
    69,116

    both doses
    2021-03-03
    223,072

    both doses
    2021-04-14
    5,126,051


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  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    COVID-19: UK cases of South African variant rise - as Indian double mutation also heads to Britain
    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ouble-mutation-also-heads-to-britain-12276830


    The strain first identified in India has two mutations, prompting fears it may be more infectious or less susceptible to vaccines.

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    COVID-19: Indian double mutation variant arrives in Britain and has 'hallmarks of very dangerous virus'
    Thomas Moore
    Science correspondent @SkyNewsThomas

    Friday 16 April 2021 13:38, UK

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...as-hallmarks-of-very-dangerous-virus-12276922

    As yet, it is unknown what impact the two mutations would have on the effectiveness of existing vaccines.

    The new Indian variant of the COVID virus that's been detected in the UK has all the hallmarks of a very dangerous virus.

    It has two new significant mutations in the spike protein that help it infect cells and evade the immune system.


    New figures from Public Health England (PHE) show there have been 73 cases detected in England and another four in Scotland.

    The variant - officially named B.1.617 - is almost certainly playing a part in the very sharp spike in the epidemic in India.

    It has been detected in at least five Indian states that are hotspots for the surge, with more than 200,000 new cases of COVID detected nationwide on Wednesday.


    One of the concerning mutations, called L452R, is also found in a variant circulating in California, though there is no link between the viruses. The Indian variant has evolved independently.
     
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    hold on to your knickers ladies

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56770460
    India's Kumbh festival attracts big crowds amid devastating second Covid wave
    By Vineet Khare
    BBC Hindi, Delhi Published 2 hours ago

    image BELOW caption Millions have gathered for the Kumbh Mela festival despite a raging pandemic

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    image BELOW caption Cities from across India are reporting shortages of hospital beds, oxygen and life-saving drugs

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    This past week, as India grapples with a devastating second wave of the coronavirus, millions of devotees have descended on the banks of the Ganges river in the northern city of Haridwar to take a dip in the water.

    Hindus believe the river is holy and taking a dip in it will cleanse them of their sins and bring salvation.

    But the government of Uttarakhand state, where Haridwar is located, is facing heavy criticism for allowing the Kumbh Mela festival to go ahead amid a sharply worsening Covid picture. On Thursday, India reported more than 200,000 Covid cases for the first time since the pandemic began.

    One influential Hindu congregation decided to opt out of the massive festival. "The Kumbh Mela is over for us," Ravindra Puri, secretary of the Niranjani Akhada or congregation was quoted as saying in local media.

    The decision came a day after Swami Kapil Dev, the head of another prominent congregation, died after being diagnosed with Covid-19.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56770460
     
  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    does you pet lick your face ?
    share your house ?
    do you touch your pet and then touch your face ?
    does your pet breath over your cup of tea or coffee
    or food ?
    does your pet walk on your bed or living room furniture ?

    i believe 100% scientists need to be working on covid vaccines for pets(absolutely no question)
    dogs, cats, horses, cattle, pigs, sheep
    rodents

    it is a question of when ? and mutating into what ?

    not if !



    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-56602311

    From the start of the pandemic, experts have shared their concerns about the impact of coronavirus on animals.

    And while scientists say there is currently no evidence that animals play a significant role in spreading the disease to people, infections have been confirmed in various species worldwide.

    These include dogs, cats, apes and even mink.

    To address these infections, scientists are developing Covid-19 vaccines that are specially designed for animals. On Wednesday, Russia announced it had registered what it said was the world's first animal-specific jab.
     
  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56779428
    The rate of coronavirus infections in Canada's biggest province has reached an all-time high as hospitals warn they are close to being overwhelmed.

    Ontario is now introducing strict new public measures, including:

    • a six-week stay-at-home order
    • restrictions on non-essential travel, including checkpoints at the borders with the neighbouring provinces of Quebec and Manitoba
    • new powers for police to stop and question people who leave home
    • a halt to non-essential construction
    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the federal government would help Toronto, the largest city in the country, which has been hard-hit by the latest surge.

    "We're going to do whatever it takes to help. Discussions are ongoing about extra healthcare providers, and we are ready to step up," he said on Friday.

    Why has it suddenly got worse?

    New variants - especially the UK variant, B1.1.7 - account for more than two-thirds of infections in Ontario.

    Even with vaccinations progressing, the expert panel warned that the number of new cases in Ontario could go as high as 30,000 a day - in a province with 14 million people, 38% of the total population of Canada.


    On Friday, Ontario reported 4,812 new cases, its third straight day of setting new records since the pandemic began.

    Hospital admissions and the number of patients in intensive care also set records for Ontario: 1,955 and 701, respectively.


    The expert panel said the best-case scenario would bring new cases down to about 5,000 a day, but only with considerably more stringent public health measures than the ones now in place.

    It would also require a vaccination rate of 300,000 a day - three times the current pace.

     
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  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    with new more deadly strains spreading like wild fire in many country's
    it may be only a matter of a few months until some vaccines become almost useless
     

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