SARS CoV-2(covid_19) & Vaccine Resistance excalating

the 1st vaccine runis just that
the 1st
the corona virus will be with the human species for ever.
so it will be a matter of keeping up the vaccination level like driver testing

September 9, 2020 Research

So... when was the study performed on the vaccine field trials & by whom ?

the claim is the vaccine is causing blood clots !!!

https://hms.harvard.edu/news/covid-19-blood-clots

where is the vaccine being administered prior to the blood clot developing ?

so now you must post a link to a registered medical laboratory or registered university research department showing that the vaccine makes blood clot or thickens
(i would personally accept a vague link if you can prove conclusively that the vaccine thickens blood in severe covid)
(peoples different daily food choices & how much water & fluids they drink thicken and thin their blood from week to week)
where is the research showing the vaccine makes an increase in blood clotting(&/or specifically in severe covid) ?

Dennis you have made a medical claim that the vaccine creates blood clots, where is the links to medical data ?

 

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In my opinion it is too much fuss for a weak virus.

This virus spreads out fast, no doubt, it has no parameters for its transmission, like to say it continues winter and summer seasons, yes, that is a fact, but a greater fact is that even when is very contagious it doesn't do any harm to healthy people because their immune system takes good care in controlling the virus.

So, what is the fuss about the virus?

Companies have been paid to make the vaccine, and the vaccine was reached in a hurry. Now they want to make money from their invention, and people don't feel the cost but governments paid for the vaccine with taxpayers money! Here is the motive why the propaganda to be vaccinated, those dudes in power are trying to justify why they have paid so much money for that vaccine. If only three million people receive it, then it was an economical waste.

So, Joe Biden ordered 200 million vaccines, and he is telling the world that here in the US, the third of the 330 million population are poor health condition people, that they need the vaccine to survive the virus. Lol.

Without testing its potential and consequences the vaccine was released in a hurry in a time when people is not afraid of that virus anymore and want to live their lives normally.

Then, the same propaganda has returned to incite people to have fear again: new mutations, more people showing positive and such crappy news are in the first page, but the number of deaths are tens percent lesser than last year.

Only poor healthy condition people might need the vaccine, but a vaccine tested and approved after at least three years of its release.

Before having that vaccine, you better have a health assessment, if you are healthy, then you don't need the vaccine. If you hve a condition that might be compromise because the weak corona virus, then consider the possibility of being vaccinated.

It is your choice, always was, always will be.

 

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Typo in my former post. The reading must say:
Joe Biden ordered 200 million vaccines, and he is telling the world that here in the US, two thirds of the 330 million population are people with poor health condition, that they need the vaccine to survive the virus. Lol.

 

This is crap. The virus kills the elderly and also makes a lot of younger people very ill, and some of them die. (Boris Johnson nearly died of it and he is in his mid 50s.) There are also numerous cases of people who suffer long-term effects are recovering from infection: heart problems, lung problems, long term fatigue, permanent loss of tase and smell, etc.

It is not propaganda that there are new mutations. Nobody stands to gain from inventing such stories. These are real.

Forget this far-right bullshit you have been fed. Science says differently.

 

Look, You better have a health assessment before being vaccinated. It is the best thing to do. If you are healthy, then you don't need the vaccine because your immune system will take care without major issues.

But, if you have health conditions, then you must consider the vaccine. If you suffer of respiratory illness, you better have the vaccine, if you have anemia or other conditions which will get worse and put your life at risk if you get infected by the virus, then have the vaccine.

Why is so important to have a health assessment before being vaccinated? Because I want to know the real condition of the health in the US.

Yes, satisfy my curiosity, I want to know if Joe Biden is right when he thinks two thirds of the US population are a bunch of sick people who need the vaccine.

Then, all the ones who want to be vaccinated, have your health assessment first and be sure it is on record that you are sick at the moment of being vaccinated.

From my part, I laugh of that virus. My health assessment shows I'm healthy, and any issues in my body won't be compromised at all if the virus attacks me.

 

what viruses do you consider "strong" ?

list some "strong viruses"

how many different people do you socialise with daily ? = none ?
do you live inside a very small elite social circle of no new social physical contacts ?

how "normal" is your life style ?
buss driver
nurse
police officer
school teacher
day care centre teacher
chef
kitchen staff
waiter ...

how "normal" is your world of real contacts ?

?

 

Bird flu, Ebola and Zika. When you get infected with those, no matter if you are healthy or not, you are in big trouble.

The corona virus is weak and causes big symptoms and even death solely to people with poor health conditions.

Normal? You are a security guard working at nights when nobody is around, you still have a normal job and living a normal life like everybody else.

And being a nurse, teacher, police officer, chef, waiter and etc, those are not "life style", those are jobs.

Come back when you learn the proper definition of words, at least the ones you are using when you discuss in forums.

 

wow !
globally rising fast

looks out of control in india and south america
watch what happens in Mexico on the usa mexico border
thats going to seriously damage usa ability to open up business with other countrys

the next jump may be significant(its already now killing younger people)

new strain killing a younger age group has been reported

with the virus incubating and evolving faster than light speed in india & south america
it will be getting soo many opportunities to make huge jumps in technology

India 100,000 new infections every single day
and climbing
Brazil killing 4,000 people per day & climbing(their fat middle to upper class will be starting to dye now which may crate political pressure)
but all their servants will have family dropping dead all over the place

once that die off starts to get closer to the ruling elite, that may drive change
it may be too late for them with the vaccine by that stage
the vaccine may become useless(thats the real global threat)

usa bail out 1.9 TRILLION dollars

so that is 2 trillion dollars lost to covid in 1 year
and the usa economy is still nose diving

new strains from lack of control will wipe out more trillions used to pay for the vaccines
that's the kicking after being knocked to the ground

 

zika killing new born babies is not killing those who get infected

the killing of the new born baby by is symptomatic causative
the virus effect on the mother is primary

you cant align a false positive to the secondary contact to define the virus as stronger if its direct effect on the initial person is equal

its like saying alcohol is more dangerous to children because drunk adults get drunk and beat up children


Zika
Considering the currently confirmed cases of microcephaly and related deaths associated with Zika virus in Brazil, the estimated case fatality rate is 8.3% (95% confidence interval: 7.2–9.6).
https://journals.lww.com/pidj/fullt...ly_case_fatality_rate_associated_with.27.aspx

which bird flu are you referring to ?

 

what-does-covid-do-to-your-blood

that doesn't say what the vaccine does to the blood

that is old news talking about the massive immunological over response leading to sudden death which as been documented from the very start

why are you quoting old news as if its linked to the clotting cause of vaccines ?

your posting is starting to look like a conspiracy theorist
you appear to be marrying up true facts from different subjects to try and give fake science information

if you find that type of behavior normal in certain church or right wing liberal conservative circles, thats your life style choice.
but this is a science area.

what is the link between between hematology behavior of the vaccine causing clotting ?

you appear to be playing for time while you wait to trail fake narratives out of subjective half media pieces


https://hms.harvard.edu/news/covid-19-blood-clots
here is the real science fact

so its a pre existing condition which has worse outcomes
so giving ANY vaccine is risky
because the kyto storm is a likely outcome combined with protein issues

how may americans have cholesterol problems for terribly bad diets ?

findings

what is the kill rate ?
1 per million or 2 per million
what is the SAR'SCoV-2 kill rate ?
3,000 per million now moving toward 4,000 per million and climbing

so your already losing 3,000 people
and if they are all vaccinated preventing bad onset
your going to save 2,997
thats not bad odds

but its not about saving people
its about profit and insurance games because private business pay usa hospital bills

so is it a fair conversation when profit is the number 1 motivator driving all policy for medications ?

probably not

so if your going to set up a cool-aid stand in my thread please bring your A game

this looks like a C game designed for a F grade population media diet

for those countrys whom are not over run by covid, they have the luxury of choosing a better quality vaccine at a higher cost and waiting for longer as it is field tested on the dying millions
thats the reality

which then all goes a bit sideways in the usa when private insurance companys control all hospitals

this is when Cytokine storm data started to show it was a primary concern
which is very old news
no surprises at all
https://www.nursingcenter.com/ncblog/april-2020/is-covid-19-fueled-by-a-cytokine-storm
Is COVID-19 Fueled by a Cytokine Storm?
Apr 8 2020 by Myrna Buiser Schnur, MSN, RN

if you are just copy and pasting things given to you by others
then you become a patsy for what ever miss information agenda they are selling

i am annoyed(can you tell) at all the media coverage of the vaccine causing clotting while they ignore all the politicians who should be leading a response instead they are running off and spending the dying peoples taxes on their luxury life styles

what you dont know is if the clotting issue around the situation of you succumbing to severe covid is going to be an issue or not
1 or 2 months after you have been vaccinated

compare that with a possibly 3% kill rate inside 30 days with no vaccine
and a 0.0001% kill rate of the vaccine IF you have been put in ICU with severe covid
you se how complicated it starts to get once you look at the real science

knowing people are ready and waiting to spin science info into fake news to sell clicks is a little frustrating
knowing the down stream effect is likely to create a much more deadly virus which risks being impervious to vaccines

 

what is the link between hematological science
vaccine function & SAR'S CoV-2 ?

THAT may be a question but is a micro biology debate
and way too technical for 99.999% who bother to post in here

off hand throwing in cut n paste links that cross over old and new things to confuse real science ?

am i starting to see a pattern of behavior here ?

if your pedaling half science truths to psychopaths(people who dont care about other people) ... its not a science debate

back to the science ...

 

https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/25/covid-19-now-killing-younger-people-french-doctor-tells-euronews

tip of the spear
the real leading edge
this is the front line

India is out of control @ a new high of 100,000 new infections per day
keep i mind they will have a kill rate of around 2.5%
so that's 2500 people dying every day
Brazil hit a new record high of 4,000 killed every day
(this [superficially]suggests their kill rate has gone up)

worst india province is maharashtra they had a kill rate of close to 3.5%

now looking at France seeing younger people being killed
it asks the question of how much momentum becomes too much for the current vaccine to cope with.

 

Then you are a jerk.

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statistics and facts
separating the illusion from the assumption

how to make sense of big data

how many people dye in the world every day ?
How many people die each day and what are they dying from ...
16/05/2020 — Nearly 150,000 people die each day around the world, according to 2017 data. · Cardiovascular diseases are the biggest killer globally
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/how-many-people-die-each-day-covid-19-coronavirus/

so we can use basic general scientific method to get a rough figure of how many additional people are dying in the world every day from covid19 (SAR'SCoV-2)

brazil = 4000 officially recorded so the real figure must be at least 25% more to be ultra conservative
so we add 25% to all covid19 death stats to get a base minimum, health statisticians tend to value the real statistics to be around 500% more in some countrys as a minimum.

india is a little different in that we cant use death covid test results because they cant afford to test all their dead
so what we can do is apply an average of their kill rate to their infection rate
their kill rate is nearing the hide side 3.5%
low side of 2.0%

so we have 100,000 infections per day which = roughly 3000 killed per day then add 25% though its more likely to be probably around 400% higher
but im only adding 25% to get a base minimum to work with

soo
Brazil 5,000 per day base minimum
keeping in mind we are yet to add other south american countrys which only makes this figure higher

south america is likely to be around 20,000 killed per day from covid base line

india is likely to be closer to 10,000 as a base line but we are only adding by reductive logic on real data even though we know there is a vast amount of data missing

so india is around 4000 killed per day

add in Europe & UK and we get a rough tally of around 10,000 per day

so as you can see
if all the dead were being tested
it would likely be a of around 50,000 killed per day of covid globally

and its only just getting warmed up

the global death rate we know roughly is 150,000
so we can clearly see
it is probably likely that death rates have increased 30% globally from covid

thats "real" science using statistics and maths

so a 30% increase n global deaths is kinda good for many because they can take what the dead had and take their money and possessions
thats how a vast majority of people think


that is probably fueling a large part of the anti-vaxer media & conspiracy's to fuel the population cull so they can obtain more wealth

now even though a vast majority subscribe to that moral judgement (ideology)
if covid evolves faster than a vaccine can be developed
it all becomes useless theory

if populations are partially vaccinated
they will evolve the virus to adapt to the vaccine
and as we can see
many countrys are letting the virus spread and evolve AND they are giving out vaccines
so they are effectively undermining the long term efficacy of the vaccine for those whom have not yet vaccinated
AND
breeding/incubating a new more deadly wider spreading vaccine resistant virus which once it hits the low grade mass vaccinated population
...
well
what then ?
lack of reporting
late reporting
etc etc etc
and then wham super virus

 

It would seem to me that a far more important question would be related to why it took so long for better forms of treatment to be embraced.

 

"treatment" versus "vaccine"

zinc & dioxycyclone & ivermectin

in test tubes ...

that sky au news presenter is a trump supporter playing the cynic
he regularly presents fringe conspiracy normalisation as mainstream news

they pander to an alt-right conspiracy audience passing themselves off as independent cynics
when they are paid per word alt-right run by allen(the owner of the station)

they play ass kissing to alt right money instead of being true independent liberals
which is a bit sad
i see it as a bit of a wasted opportunity for them to really entrench themselves as core Australian cultural mandate in a news media footing
but that is probably a good thing

treatments are not vaccines

vaccines are not anti-biotics

anti-parasitics tend to be very dangerous medications and only used for short periods and under direct medical supervision

the question is cost and administration
administering an expensive treatment to a critical ICU poor person
versus administering an expensive treatment to a slightly ill rich person

the morals are totally corrupt

as soon as you dig your theory out of that moral sewer we can continue the science discussion

treatments are the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff
vaccines are the fence and warning signs at the top

2 different animals

note
while increasing vitamins mineral & herbal supplements may be a great idea for healthy people
endorsing wide scale public use of anti-parasitic & antibiotics is a slow train to a high cliff down a gradual slope
.... defined
as more people use them the virus becomes stronger as it becomes more resistant and while it mutates human DNA in breeding cycles
while loading chemicals into the mass population blood stream which there is no idea how it will effect people longer term

soo
while some treatments may work
note most importantly
"may work on rich people rushed straight into expensive medical care when they get slightly sick" and have doctors on call 24/7 checking them at working class tax payers expense
classicism wearing a new dress and a wig

that doesn't mean they will be the answer by getting everyone to feed them to their babys and small children(general public)

P.S
NOTE
important
if people start taking large amounts of minerals and other types of supplements and medications as preventative and start to flood their blood stream and fat layers liver and organs
with chems & compounds
it may undermine the effectiveness of a vaccine
it may increases the kill rate of the virus
its an unknown

i could speculate o a few things but there are people looking to make money off such advice
and they are not paying me
and they are happy to make the money by increasing the kill rate or decreasing the kill rate
they dont care

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/11/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html
Covid-19 hospitalizations among younger people are rising in the US -- especially in one region
By Christina Maxouris, CNN

Updated 1035 GMT (1835 HKT) April 11, 2021


While Covid-19 vaccination numbers climb across the country, Covid-19 cases and hospitalizations are also on the rise, fueled by the B.1.1.7 variant, which is now the dominant strain in the US. Experts say the variant is more contagious, may cause more severe disease and is also potentially more deadly.

In the past seven days, the US has reported an average of more than 68,000 new Covid-19 cases daily, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. That's up by more than 20% since the March 10 seven-day average.
"On the one hand, we have so much reason for optimism and hope, and more Americans are being vaccinated,"
CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said during a White House Covid-19 briefing Friday. "On the other hand, cases and emergency room visits are up. And ... we are seeing these increases in younger adults, most of whom have not yet been vaccinated."
Americans ages 18 to 64 have seen increasing numbers of emergency department visits, she added.

 

Because it takes a long time to do medical trials. And you have to see consistent positive results before you can ethically recommend them to the general population.

Imagine the world of hurt we'd be in today, for example, if hydroxychloroquine, or bleach injections, were touted as cures.

 

I think this is interesting

https://www.qld.gov.au/health/condi...ers/covid-19-vaccine/about#astrazeneca-update