Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by eincloud, Sep 10, 2004.
you want to get out of it or not
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What is the Samsara Cycle?
The samsara cycle is the cycle of death and rebirth. The only way to get out of it is by achieving nirvana
So then I assume escaping this cycle means immortality. Is that so?
It is more so that once reach nirvana you stop being reborn
a little boy-heros dream....can you see him?'''.....seethat dust on the road?,,,,that's him just gone past. he's got a big sword and is lookin for a Dragon sos he can kill it and put his foot on it and have his photo took........
Escaping from the cycle means freedom from the cycle of birth and rebirth and the fusion of your soul with the Atman.
nirvana is the goal of all those who believe in the circle - isn't it?
wans't 'circles' and squares etc part of the geomatria that was deified by pythagoras and co?
i prefer spiral.......its more organic and interesting, and labyrinthe of course
Nirvana, Moksha.... different names for one objective.
I don't want to break from the cycle; I love life too much, with all its struggles and beings. To me, once you finish learning, you must teach; and to teach the multitudes is an endless task.
A desire to break free from samsara, is a desire, therefore will keep you from breaking free from samsara.
You must be free of all desires, including the desire to be free from desire.
According to Buddha, anyway.
Maybe the very process which was triggered by desire eliminates it in the end.
There is no end. Nirvana does not exist. It is a logical idea developed by Buddha and many others to solve the perception of misery. Infinity does not have any end.
From a purely practical aspects, even Buddha has to come back to teach. Otherwise the great Atman or whatever you are supposed to join would get mad, because someone has to teach these rascals how to live so that creation can go on. Stopping creation just does not work - besides you can not prove the creation would stop and never start again.
We have a long way to go. You just can not get off from this journey.
I had a dream(1), that I am sleeping and having a dream(2) and then suddenly I woke up from my dream (2), and my mind assumed the fact that I am awake ! Am I ?
Which cycle (dream) are we talking about ?
When realizing that our 'self' does not get affected by anything - happiness or sadness, good or bad - we loose interest in these illusions. But the problem is we are afraid of loosing these illusions. As Vivekanda said, a little candle light can drive away years of darkness instantly.
Look for PATTERNS no 'samsara' 'nirvana':
Yes, i encourage you to look for the similar pattern that the conept of 'nirvana' and 'samsara' shares which iiiiis (trumpets sound.......!!) man's fear of D E A T H!.......the dream of man to escape 'necessity' (Greek)...the 'wheel of life and death'.....all the patriarchal ideas from philosophy, to myth, to religion, to secual ideas, to transhumanism, etc...ALL want to escape death
Why do you think this is so?
ALL want to escape death
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YES, Bless him. It was awful what happened to him, and yet he kept strong when he realized his family still loved and accepted him......don't know what happens after physical death, but i am glad he is free of his contricting injury
It is destiny. If one is destined to break off the cycle, one will!
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