Samsara cycle

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by eincloud, Sep 10, 2004.

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Samara-yes or no

  1. You want to break from the cycle

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  2. You do not want to break from the cycle

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  1. eincloud Banned Banned

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    you want to get out of it or not
     
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  3. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    What is the Samsara Cycle?
     
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  5. eincloud Banned Banned

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    The samsara cycle is the cycle of death and rebirth. The only way to get out of it is by achieving nirvana
     
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  7. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    So then I assume escaping this cycle means immortality. Is that so?
     
  8. eincloud Banned Banned

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    It is more so that once reach nirvana you stop being reborn
     
  9. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    a little boy-heros dream....can you see him?'''.....seethat dust on the road?,,,,that's him just gone past. he's got a big sword and is lookin for a Dragon sos he can kill it and put his foot on it and have his photo took........
     
  10. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    Escaping from the cycle means freedom from the cycle of birth and rebirth and the fusion of your soul with the Atman.
     
  11. parasite Registered Member

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    nirvana is the goal of all those who believe in the circle - isn't it?
     
  12. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    wans't 'circles' and squares etc part of the geomatria that was deified by pythagoras and co?
    i prefer spiral.......its more organic and interesting, and labyrinthe of course
     
  13. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    Nirvana, Moksha.... different names for one objective.
     
  14. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    I don't want to break from the cycle; I love life too much, with all its struggles and beings. To me, once you finish learning, you must teach; and to teach the multitudes is an endless task.
     
  15. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    A desire to break free from samsara, is a desire, therefore will keep you from breaking free from samsara.
    You must be free of all desires, including the desire to be free from desire.
    According to Buddha, anyway.
     
  16. airavata portentous Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe the very process which was triggered by desire eliminates it in the end.
     
  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    There is no end. Nirvana does not exist. It is a logical idea developed by Buddha and many others to solve the perception of misery. Infinity does not have any end.

    From a purely practical aspects, even Buddha has to come back to teach. Otherwise the great Atman or whatever you are supposed to join would get mad, because someone has to teach these rascals how to live so that creation can go on. Stopping creation just does not work - besides you can not prove the creation would stop and never start again.

    We have a long way to go. You just can not get off from this journey.
     
  18. Rajagopals Registered Senior Member

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    I had a dream(1), that I am sleeping and having a dream(2) and then suddenly I woke up from my dream (2), and my mind assumed the fact that I am awake ! Am I ?

    Which cycle (dream) are we talking about ?
     
  19. everneo Re-searcher Registered Senior Member

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    When realizing that our 'self' does not get affected by anything - happiness or sadness, good or bad - we loose interest in these illusions. But the problem is we are afraid of loosing these illusions. As Vivekanda said, a little candle light can drive away years of darkness instantly.
     
  20. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    Look for PATTERNS no 'samsara' 'nirvana':

    Yes, i encourage you to look for the similar pattern that the conept of 'nirvana' and 'samsara' shares which iiiiis (trumpets sound.......!!) man's fear of D E A T H!.......the dream of man to escape 'necessity' (Greek)...the 'wheel of life and death'.....all the patriarchal ideas from philosophy, to myth, to religion, to secual ideas, to transhumanism, etc...ALL want to escape death

    Why do you think this is so?
     
  21. kmguru Staff Member

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    ALL want to escape death

    Sure they do...but then reality bites....ouch...

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  22. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    YES, Bless him. It was awful what happened to him, and yet he kept strong when he realized his family still loved and accepted him......don't know what happens after physical death, but i am glad he is free of his contricting injury
     
  23. UltiTruth In pursuit... Registered Senior Member

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    It is destiny. If one is destined to break off the cycle, one will!
     

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