I'm not James, so I am not sure what you were referring to in my response. I can't explain why anyone other than me, perceives something they way they do. That would be presumptuous, and I don't like making presumptions about other peoples feelings and/or perceptions. My perception of S.A.M. has been built on many interactions with her on these fora alone. Some of which have been pleasant and insightful. I avoid most of her threads now because of her method of argument which I believe to be one of obfuscation and subterfuge. A way of arguing that doesn't really get anything done, just hurls accusations and has no interest in backing up assertions or accepting that one might be wrong. I generally dismiss her posts because I do not like to waste my time. I have a job, and a family and interests outside of this forum that don't include spending copious amounts of time railing at windmills. I am not going to cite posts or point out where she has done this because I'm not a moderator nor admin and I have no stake in whether she stays or go's. I think she's intelligent, and sometimes has the ability to set aside her obsessions to discuss things rationally and without her usual method of one-sided debate tactics, so it's not about hatred either. I like her opinions on art culture, biology, human nature, and sometimes even ethics. It would be my wish that she could find some peace about the other things that cause her to stereotype entire groups of people, and jump to conclusions about sets of people causing her to hate groups of people sometimes without reason. I personally find that sad for her, and would hope that someday she gets a bit more open-minded about things. But you are taking individual little zits and picking at them until they bleed, instead of looking at the whole thing. The whole problem. You deem it okay for volunteers to spend a considerable amount of time baby sitting people who have questionable tactics. And while that may be acceptable for you, it may not be acceptable to others. I respect that you make your actions transparent for the most part, but even you aren't completely transparent. You don't name names, and you don't make the posts you've edited open to everyone. So it would be impossible for someone like me to even attempt to point out the really bad posts since they have been hidden away from our eyes. All I can honestly give you is my experience with a poster and my perception of that poster. You can take it or leave it, and it won't change my perception unless you somehow convince me otherwise with assertions and opinions of your own. I don't know what you want me to say, Tiassa. You can't have a human without perception. It's sometimes our greatest asset, and our greatest burden. But you can't ask every single person to back up their perception with facts and figures... sometimes it just comes with experience from a greater body of information. Sometimes, it's complete and utter bullshit. It's clear here, that you aren't accepting James R's perception because you consider it (and the reasons behind it) to be bullshit. So what now? Stall or go forward? Open a discourse between the two of you so you can resolve it and things can go back to normal? Or just keep dancing until both of you fall out completely exhausted? I dunno, but this doesn't have anything to do with S.A.M. anymore.