Rule against insults

Discussion in 'SF Open Government' started by James R, May 28, 2008.

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Posts that contain personal attacks or insults directed at other members of sciforums

Poll closed Jun 4, 2008.

  1. Should always be deleted outright.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  2. Should always be edited to remove all insults.

    2 vote(s)
    3.6%

  3. Should either be deleted or edited to remove insults, according to moderator discretion.

    4 vote(s)
    7.1%

  4. Should be deleted, edited or left standing, at moderator discretion.

    14 vote(s)
    25.0%

  5. Should be left standing, or edited, at moderator discretion, but never deleted.

    2 vote(s)
    3.6%

  6. Should be left alone, and a warning sent to the poster concerned. Too many warnings means a ban.

    12 vote(s)
    21.4%

  7. Should be moved to the Cesspool, and the poster warned.

    3 vote(s)
    5.4%

  8. Should be moved to the Cesspool, but otherwise remain unedited (no further action).

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  9. Should always be left alone (i.e. no rule against personal attacks or insults).

    14 vote(s)
    25.0%

  10. Should be encouraged. There aren't enough insults and attacks here!

    2 vote(s)
    3.6%

  11. No opinion/don't care/don't want to vote/other (see comment in thread).

    3 vote(s)
    5.4%
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  1. Dr Lou Natic

    Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    What does that mean you cryptic witch of the east? What's got you sniffing about?
     
    Dr Lou Natic, Jun 6, 2008
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  3. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I always find it amusing when women in a hijab criticise the looks of a woman who prefers not to conceal her faults. Don't you?
     
    S.A.M., Jun 6, 2008
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  5. Dr Lou Natic

    Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    Sometimes, it depends how funny the looks of the woman without the hijab are.
    You know, very funny looks - very amusing criticisms.
     
    Dr Lou Natic, Jun 6, 2008
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  7. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Tee hee

    /giggles in hijab
     
    S.A.M., Jun 6, 2008
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  8. Dr Lou Natic

    Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    Dr Lou Natic, Jun 6, 2008
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  9. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    S.A.M., Jun 6, 2008
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  10. draqon

    draqon Banned Banned

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    Dr Lou post picture of yourself
     
    draqon, Jun 6, 2008
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  11. BenTheMan

    BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, the "Insults are bad" people can form a coalition and demand a runoff. Would that make you happy?
     
    BenTheMan, Jun 6, 2008
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  12. Randwolf

    Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Well, at least we have clarified whether or not this poll will actually influence reality...

    Ummmmm.... Why bother?
     
    Randwolf, Jun 6, 2008
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  13. skaught

    skaught The field its covered in blood Valued Senior Member

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    I would like to think that sciforums admin staff would listen to reason... But I doubt it.
     
    skaught, Jun 6, 2008
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  14. invert_nexus

    invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    "....we pretend to be constucting edifices of impartial thought, when actually we are selecting only such acts and agreements as will give dignity to some personal or patriotic wish."

    Will Durant, The Pleasures of Philosophy.
     
    invert_nexus, Jun 6, 2008
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  15. Asguard

    Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    In surport of bens post i request that a new poll be established with only 2 options

    1) No action should be taken

    2) action should be taken
     
    Asguard, Jun 6, 2008
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  16. draqon

    draqon Banned Banned

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    2 is the choice. Make that poll Mr. Asguard.

    Break down that wall Mr. Gorbachev, Russian traitor
     
    draqon, Jun 6, 2008
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  17. Randwolf

    Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    So would I, but I am but a noob...

    However, this comment seemed so egregious that I couldn't refrain from commenting...

    What is the purpose of this poll anyway?

    Are we users to anticipate that something, anything, will change predicated on the outcome? I don't know, is this a democracy? Someone enlighten me...
     
    Randwolf, Jun 6, 2008
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  18. invert_nexus

    invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    James would appear to have been curious.

    Things always change. But what, when, and why are up for grabs.

    This isn't really a democracy. It's been found that most users of this site are rather apathetic when it comes to governance. They generally only get involved when they feel personally slighted.

    However, public opinion, I'm sure, will have some sway when it comes to decisions on whether or not to step in in any particular situation. I doubt that Sciforums will ever be a complete free-for-all though. It'll likely continue the same course it's been on since I joined: haphazard enforcement that sometimes seems capricious but is perhaps not so random when considered in context.
    Perhaps.

    Personally, I agree with Lou somewhat. Although I believe that sometimes flaming can get carried away, I do think that a more lax attitude on insulting behavior might well work to increase the intellectual profile of the site.
    Insults could be punished for being moronic (e.g. "You stupid cunt!") and overlooked when more witty. Especially if the posts still manage to stay on topic and to further the topic.

    Too often these days a thread gets hijacked by niceness rather than flaming. Flaming tends to keep people focuses whereas niceness leaves people all warm and cozy and half-sleeping.
     
    invert_nexus, Jun 6, 2008
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  19. Randwolf

    Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    My invert_nexus, you do get around. I am sure, though, that it is totally coincidental that we happen to be communicating on two seperate threads at the exact same time...

    On a, I hope, relevant note...

    Yes, it would appear that James is curious. That answers my question, this is simply an exercise. I was just wondering. I was also wondering if the outcome of the poll would have any bearing on the way the site is run (and again, I am a noobe, so I am just curious)

    I stand enlightened by your response.

    Thank you for clarifying the situation. Certainly, this is the most "open" site I have ever posted on. Compared to other places, your willingness to consider your user's viewpoints is extremely refreshing. I anticipate a long and healthy life here...

    TTYL

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    Randwolf, Jun 6, 2008
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  20. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Randwolf:

    Polls like this can and do influence decision-making. They do not determine it. There is a difference.

    In this thread, I clearly asked for opinions. I have not put forward any proposed policy changes for a vote. If I choose to do that, I will be quite clear as to the intent, and whether the vote will bind the administration.
     
    James R, Jun 6, 2008
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  21. Randwolf

    Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks James_R, and I apologize for overlooking your earlier post...

    Also, it is good to know that the polls here might actually influence things!

    Thanks again!

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    Randwolf, Jun 6, 2008
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  22. James R

    James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    James R, Jun 6, 2008
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