Roy moore accusations

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  1. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    There may be hope for your banana republic yet.
     
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  3. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah with a 1% victory there are all sorts of factors then went into that. If you think racial justice is the issue we should push, may I introduce you to President Trump.
     
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  5. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    That's irrelevant - no doubt the white turnout would have been a bit higher as well, pushing him over, had he been of sound mind and character.
    But the striking and unusual feature of this off year election was the turnout in the black areas of Alabama. It was only a few points under the 2016 Presidential election vote, in places - and this wasn't even a midterm.

    Some of the liberal rags - Harper's, etc - have for a few years now been running articles pointing out that getting the black and brown vote to the polls would take a lot of supposedly solid Republican regions Democratic overnight. Texas, for example. https://harpers.org/archive/2017/03/texas-is-the-future/

    Essentially every election lost on voter suppression, gerrymandering, and ballot count "irregularities"- such as the electoral loss of Wisconsin, Michigan, possibly Pennsylvania, Florida, a couple of others, in 2016 - was lost on race, in the US.
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Roy Moore refuses to give up

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/roy-moore-video-ballots/index.html

    In the video released Wednesday night, Moore thanks his family and supporters. He also appears to continue his campaign rhetoric, saying, "Abortion, sodomy, and materialism have taken the place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

    Well abortion improves life, or prevents many who where going to live shit lives, from living shit lives. Sodomy is usually a choice and thus having the right to choose to get fucked or pegged in the ass is in fact 'liberty'. And materialism has bless us with a high standard of living and health, now when I worked in africa many of them were happy people, even in outstanding poverty, but their lives were shorter and harder none the less. So these replacements for "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" are not too shabby.

    In his video, Moore appears to place some blame on accusations against him for his election loss.
    "Even our political process has been affected with baseless and false allegations which have become more relevant than the issues which affect our country," Moore said.

    Apparently those issue which affect our country are abortion and sodomy and materialism. Frankly sexual harassment allegations come above all those in my opinion, as those are personal choices devoid of direct or even indirect harm to others.

    Moore said. "This election was tainted by over $50 million from outside groups who want to retain power and their corrupt ideology."

    What the democrats? what power to the democrats have to retain? Does this guy come from a paralleled universe where the democrats are just a breath way from forcing us all into abortions while fucking us in the ass and blowing our money on pumpkin flavored lattes?

    Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill has said it is "highly unlikely" that Jones would not be certified as the winner of the election.

    Thank you cthulhu.

    I'm not against such a turn out, it just is that not the point of republican voter suppression, gerrymandering and ballot count "irregularities", are you saying that via shear masses such suppression can be overcome?

    Anyways how would you go about a get out the black/brown vote campaign?
     
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  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. As it has been in the past, in (say) Ohio.
    And however it was done in Houston 2016, or Alabama day before yesterday, would be worth checking out.
    The "sheer masses" involved are probably less than a million votes, total, spread over the entire country.
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    So I was reviewing ow Jones won, very interesting: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/15/...tml?rref=collection/sectioncollection/opinion

    Basically he targeted white voters keeping them calm, while Black superpacs got out the black vote, not sure if this is genius or luck, but it MUST be replicated. The problem with bringing out the black vote is it energizes the racist conservative vote against. So if, for example, our candidates the chants "blacks lives matter" it probably stimulates more racist conservative to vote against then it gains in Blacks. What Jones did was target whites with more of Kumbaya I'm for everyone Obama style talk, while the black pacs got to work energizer the black vote outside the eye and ears of white voters. The advantage of this is we could run any progressive candidate, a Bernie or Warren, who would not need to champion racially dividing issues, while the super pacs would do that work for him/her.

    "If Democrats want to win, they will elevate and give broad budgetary authority to strategists and organizers with long histories and deep ties in the country’s communities of color. They sent Doug Jones to the United States Senate, and they can bring Democrats back to prominence and power in states and districts across the country."
     
  10. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't have a subscription to the NY Time so can't see the article. Nonetheless, Obama's speech before the election was targeting black voters I read... somewhere.
     
  11. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    http://archive.is/yZKDX

    Obama was the black guy that spoke white, he was the nice-calm, not angry black guy stereotype.
     

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