Robots are going to take over

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  1. Eidolan Registered Senior Member

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    So what will it be like once the robots take over? Will it be like it is in the Matrix, or I-Robot, or will they just kill us all?

    Do you think they will put us in zoos to study us? Or will they assimilate us like the Borg?

    They could turn us all into robots, and they could probably do it without most of us noticing. We're not very observant creatures.

    What if the robots want to become like us? What about when we start having sex and babies with robots?

    What is going to happen with the robots?
     
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  3. EntropyAlwaysWins TANSTAAFL. Registered Senior Member

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    but seriously, what basis do you have for assuming that '[the] robots are going to take over'?
     
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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Ever read Asimovs book I Robot? That was a well written book about what you fear.
     
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  7. Enmos Staff Member

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    I think robots taking us over is nonsense.
    But IF they would I think it would be more like in The Terminator

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  8. CarpetDiem Burnin' hours, season days Registered Senior Member

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    We created them; why would they want to study their creators? They would starve us by burning anything organic and contaminating the water.

    We're organic, so sex is unlikley too.

    They would also speed up climate change outcomes to make things more uncomfortable for any human survivors.

    The robots would ultimately turn on each other, well after we're gone.
     
  9. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    We've yet to build a machine that can move as efficiently as even a single cell organism. Minus the intelligence issues, they would have to be able to travel long distances with very little fuel/energy to collect new energy sources. That would require some kind of anti-gravity technology, an extremely large fuel storage capacity...or a Veeery long extension cord.

    Long story short, it's improbable. Even nuclear driven machines would require lubrication to move in order to find more lubrication to operate long enough to make more nuclear powered machines.

    Robots would have to be 100% organic hence not robots at all.
     
  10. John99 Banned Banned

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    take over what? computers and any type of AI is only capable of doing predetermined actions. whatever a human writes in the code it will do nothing more. AI is non-existent and never will exist. PERIOD.
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    The study of artificial neural networks[103] began in the decade before the field AI research was founded. In the 1960s Frank Rosenblatt developed an important early version, the perceptron.[110] Paul Werbos developed the backpropagation algorithm for multilayer perceptrons in 1974,[111] which led to a renaissance in neural network research and connectionism in general in the middle 1980s. The Hopfield net, a form of attractor network, was first described by John Hopfield in 1982.

    Common network architectures which have been developed include the feedforward neural network, the radial basis network, the Kohonen self-organizing map and various recurrent neural networks.[citation needed] Neural networks are applied to the problem of learning, using such techniques as Hebbian learning, competitive learning[112] and the relatively new architectures of Hierarchical Temporal Memory and Deep Belief Networks.


    The artificial brain argument: The brain can be simulated. Hans Moravec, Ray Kurzweil and others have argued that it is technologically feasible to copy the brain directly into hardware and software, and that such a simulation will be essentially identical to the original. This argument combines the idea that a suitably powerful machine can simulate any process, with the materialist idea that the mind is the result of physical processes in the brain.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&star...igence&usg=AFQjCNFSTos5oLqwnouTFRqI7vyCtcUDxQ


    Try talking to an AI online....

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&star...n.html&usg=AFQjCNHamRWerHjb5vZkEysNZscRcW7A7w
     
  12. John99 Banned Banned

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    Where is the 'artificial intelligence'? it is all human intelligence programmed into a machine. the only difference is that the machine can do it faster once it is told how to respond. even when there are different choices to make those choices were put there by a human. Hence, no AI. Since the machine cannot go beyond and discover new solutions then it is no more than a parrot.
     
  13. John99 Banned Banned

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    There. i said it, now i am the bad guy?
     
  14. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Only if you think you are. I would like to differ with you by saying that a machine was doing the "thinking" when you asked it a question not a human so that , to me, is a piece of an AI machine not a human talking to you.
     
  15. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    But John is still correct.

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    An AI cannot have an original thought, all it's responses have to be pre-programed into it. And something many fail to see is that a great deal of human innovation was driven by emotion - like hunger, for example - and a machine can never be given true emotions.

    No emotions, no original thought - yep, that's a machine, not intelligence.
     
  16. domesticated om Interplanetary homesteader Valued Senior Member

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    Robots are (for lack of a better way of saying this) nothing more than sophisticated toaster ovens. They are built by humans as labor saving devices.
    Their core function is to perform the tasks they were designed to do.


    .....of course, this is not to say that some idiot somewhere will try to create a machine programmed with organism-like routines, or "human" behaviors.....in which case, the machine will behave however the designer planned it to behave.

    Machines will never arbitrarily develop a will of their own, but it's certainly possible to build a robot that looks like it has one.
     
  17. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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  18. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    Humans will become extinct, but transhumans will live on.
     
  19. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Did you know there's no such word in the dictionary? So what are these "transhumans" then since you seem to know about them more than anyone else.:shrug:
     
  20. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

    Dictionaries are too slow in this digital age

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    The "transhumans" are us, or our children, or their children, depending on how quickly technology moves. Every species is a transitional species, humans included.
     
  21. kmguru Staff Member

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    Yet, we are adding mechanical parts to humans...brain implants, eye implants, hearing implants etc...so are they humans or robots? Taken to its extremes....???
     
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  23. kmguru Staff Member

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    Never as in not in a Billion years? or never as in 100 years?

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