"Robo-tripping"

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by madanthonywayne, Nov 22, 2007.

  1. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    A new craze has hit our high schools. It's called "Robo-tripping". The name refers to Robitussin, the favored brand name for these drug abusers.

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    It's a cough medicine whose active ingredient, DXM, causes the high these boneheads are after:
    This practice is extremely dangerous. DXM itself can be deadly, especially when combined with other drugs or alcohol. And DXM is often combined with other active ingredients that can be fatal in the high doses these people take.

    Yet there are websites that advocate this practice and even have calculators on them to determine the "appropriate" dosage to achieve a given "plateau".

    Chugging cough medicine to get high just seems pathetic and sad. What a ridiculous way to die. If you must do drugs, can't we stick to the classics? You know, alcohol and pot?

    It's my opinion that the internet sites that advocate this practice should be shut down and whoever set them up prosecuted. Perhaps even charged in any deaths resulting from this practice.

    Here's the site the above quote came from. It has a lot of info and testimonials from people affected by this. http://www.dxmstories.com/index.html
     
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  3. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Hardly new, the transcendental properties of DXM have been explored since the 70s, when punk house parties ended up just as littered with empty cans of cough syrup as they were with beer cans.

    For? Robotussin is perfectly legal. Shitting on the First Amendment, not so much.
    Besides, isn't it much more beneficial for someplace like Erowid.org to exist, where users will yell "Hey dumbass! Tylenol will fuck up your liver!" rather than for this sort of thing to travel by word of mouth?

    Everything except, unsurprisingly, actual data.
     
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  5. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    What do you expect? There's nothing that requires hospitals or private doctors to report such cases.
     
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  7. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    Hey, I've got some actual data. I personally know someone who just ended up in the hospital from this nonsense. And I don't call prosecuting someone for advocating potentially lethal doses "shitting on the first ammendment".

    And, sure, I'd heard of people drinking cough medicine before. Mostly bums and degenerate punk rockers, I assumed. But I hadn't heard it was all the rage among middle class high school kids.

    If I prescribe a medicine to someone and they die as a result of it, I'm liable. The same should apply to people who recommend chugging cough medicine. Especially if they go so far as to recommend a specific dosage.

    And if you feel the site I linked to is lacking in facts, please provide a better link.
     
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  8. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    I'm sorry about your friend. I have my own experience and mild tinnitus from a stupid mistake that I made.

    But anecdote is, as they say, not the plural of data, and this is a forum dedicated to science. Is the use of this drug truely "on the rise," or is it simply being discovered by an exceptionally naive segment of the population?

    Certainly the drug is toxic in extremely high doses, however this is well below the point needed to plateau. This probably belongs in ethics and morality for this point: I discovered DXM during a nasty cold. Had I overdosed then, would the drug manufacturer be liable? They're the ones who make, distribute and market the stuff.

    Refusing to take responsibility for your mistakes puts you on a slippery slope. Socially, refusing en masse to be responsible for yourself pulls the rest of us with you.

    I'd think that you, as a conservative, would appreciate this.

    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm.shtml

    The dangers and the benefits, which is something you won't see from cheap propaganda.

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    By the way I don't mean to sound like an asshole by implying that your friend made a foolish mistake, I hope I don't come off that way.
     
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  9. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    The thing about Robotussin(or Nyquil) is that it's way easier to get than alcohol if you're underaged. I did it for a minute, but I found that it was addicting after so long, and then my friend's mom died from the stuff. Plus it tastes nasty. Now I just help the stores out with their taxes when I want a good buzz.
     
  10. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Jeez, I just posted another thread yesterday about how painkiller use among teenagers are rising. How they are stealing them from parents, other ppls houses to get high.

    Other members replied saying they did the same thing.

    I don't understand why ppl will use almost anything to get high. I can't beleive how many members here use drugs, sounds like on a regular basis. Why do so many feel the need to get high.....are they trying to escape other things going on in their life?
    I don't get it....:shrug:
     
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    Immaturity - need I say more?
     
  12. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    I can understand when you are a teenager and try stuff out. Even in your early 20's. You know partytime! But when you are 30's, 40's......have a family and such I just don't get it :shrug:
     
  13. maxg Registered Senior Member

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    There's plenty of data available on overdoses of cough medicine, tylenol, antihistamines, and a whole host of other medications (although they don't break it down by age):

    http://dawninfo.samhsa.gov/files/DAWN2k5ED.htm#Tab15

    I agree, though, that trying to stop web sites from carrying information is a ridiculous response. If there was a significant enough problem States can restrict the sale or ban the use of the medications--they've already made it difficult to purchase any quantity of decongestants. Of course, the drug companies wouldn't like this. Codeine cough syrup works a lot better anyway but they banned that one already.

    From what I've read DXM is a pretty crappy high so there aren't a lot of people trying it more than once. It's also not that widely used--I'm wiling to bet a lot more kids are going to the hospital for overdoses of alcohol or even inhalant abuse.
     
  14. maxg Registered Senior Member

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    Were you using it for the alcohol content or for the hallucinogen effects of the DXM? My understanding that in a large enough dose to produce hallucinations it is actually a pretty unpleasant drug compared to illict hallucinogens like LSD.
     
  15. superstring01 Moderator

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    WHAT?

    C'mon Madanthony, it ain't new... and as far as I know it's called "Robodosing" and it's really not all that fun. I think I did it like three or four times way back when. It can be serious stuff depending on the dosage and the ingredients, as I'm sure you well know.

    ~String
     
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    I do. It's because the immaturity isn't just limited to the young and is often accompanied by a large dose of stupidity. And there's no age limit on that either.
     
  17. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    That is true.
     
  18. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    I've never hallucinated; actually the feeling was similar to staying up for three or four days in a row. I remember it was a lot better when I smoked some weed at the same time. Nyquil is similar to an alcohol buzz though.
     
  19. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    I knew guys who did pot, coke, crack,lsd, uppers, downers, and even heroin. Two friends of mine from high school went to prison for dealing. One of those guys is dead now, as a result. Another friend of mine spent some time in the nut house because of a bad experience with lsd. But, up to now, I never knew anyone who got high on cough syrup.
     
  20. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    I'm surprised that it wasn't well liked. I much preferred the high to alcohol - sure, it's much more involved, but I've never had my ceiling open up after enough vodka.


    For those of you complaining that you didn't hallucinate - well duh. It's not a hallucinogen, it's a dissociative. The trip is more "imagine and it's real" than seeing things that aren't there.

    The most common thing I felt was a sensation of travelling or moving through worlds. There's a tape my friend made of me tripping and insisting that I'd confirmed the many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics (http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/~fjh/many-worlds-faq.html) and a whole bunch of nonsense about the chemical aligning the spin of the electrons in my brain and a host of random crap.

    Anyways the side effects are often the result of whatever else crud is in cough medicine, but they weren't all so bad if you had a nice boy to talk to and hold and one of those scratchy sponges. (That sounds way dirtier than it is!)

    Not that I'm advocating it. The risks can outweigh the benefits.

    Yes, but not on the website he linked to at first.

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  21. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    how do they drink a bottle of it without barfing it back up of just going off to sleep.
     
  22. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    I threw up 2 seconds after the first time I drank a bottle. Then I went back into the store grabbed another one so my friend who wanted me to try it didn't start talking shit. Never went to sleep. Why would you?

    Xev:
    You really like a robo-buzz(or anything) over being drunk?
     
  23. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    This whole thing sounds so ridicolous to me:bugeye: Can ppl not have a good time without getting drunk or high?
     

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